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The three headed prince that was promised


Prophecy tells us that a promised prince is poised to be born from the “line” of Aerys, the mad king, Targaryen.

Now, it’s not explicit what this prince role should be, but everyone thinks that he is the “chosen” hero, Azor Ahai. If he is in fact a savior of some kind and this prophecy is as old as the long night, then why isn’t he “expected” or prophesied in Westeros?


What if he is?


Since this hero should be the one that face “the others” I found it hard to believe that is solely a Tragaryen thing, at least if we understand “dragon” not only as the literal creature but also as a person that has “dragon blood”. Not to mention that a fire breathing dragon is more of a weapon than a hero, and just because you can hatch a dragon egg, no matter how miraculous it may be, it doesn’t make you a “chosen” hero, or a “promised” princess. Sorry Dany.


This hero is chosen, and there’s a promise and a song involved.

A choice and a promise involve other people. People not directly related to the matter.


If we can think of the three headed prince as a “dragon” that is in fact a person, not an actual creature, then we are left with Dany, Aegon (alleged son of Rhaegar) and Jon. I’ll talk about Dany later.

As for Aegon, he’s a pretender, and his entourage will soon learn that you can’t design a prince when you are dealing with some serious blood magic shit.


Now back to the three heads and the promised prince.


We know very little of this prince, but we know that:


·       There’s a promise involved

·       He’s from the line of Aerys

·       Has a song: the song of ice and fire

·       He has “three heads”

·       He is a prince

·       We can suspect that the old gods are somehow involved, since the prophecy was presented by the “Ghost of high heart” who gets her “dreams” from weirwood trees.


We only have three candidates, since there are only 3 living Aerys’s descendants. But I’ll try to prove that the Promised Prince is in fact Jon, and I’ll also try to prove that the north really remembers, and he’s birth is also a matter of prophecy in Westeros.


1)  The three headed Dragon: the civil war in the North


What is a “dragon” if not a fire breathing creature?


Dragons are POWER.


How did the Targaryans in particular, and the Valyrians in general made sure that they could hold on to their power? By not sharing it.

They only married among themselves, because when you bring a new person into your family, then that person’s family becomes your kin, and when that happens, it brings along all kind of commitments.

The best example is what happened to Edmure Tully. Since his sister was married to Eddard, he was kin to the Starks and when Eddard was first arrested and then beheaded, he was forced to choose a side. For Edmure, it ultimately meant losing his lands, his family and everything that gave him power.

So, history may tell you that the dragons died because they were confined or because the Targs forgot about the magic spells that were required to hatch the eggs. But truth is, nothing is more “magical” than power, and the dragons dying is an allegory of their power dying.  Their power died once they started to share it with outsiders, once their “seed” began to spread all over Westeros, and the bastards started to made claims, once they were were not longer, that special.


Dragons are special. They are the most special of all creatures, at least south of the wall.


And if you speak of “special seeds” and “special creatures” and “special bloods” you HAVE to think of the Starks.


They’ve been holding on to their power for thousands of uncontested years. That’s special. That’s a worthy seed, that’s power. The Starks are kings in the north in all but name.


And then they married a Tully, an outsider, a family that was born a vassal. What benefit did that marriage gave them? Not to mention the frustrated Frey marriage or the Westerling bride.

Power is Power, and if your power is somehow “magical” when you share it with those of less power, it just washes away.


So, a dragon is power, and the power is in the “blood”, the family’s blood.

So we have the “special bloods” that are spread through “special seeds” that gives a “special power” to its bearer.  

We also know that there is power in a king’s blood, and it makes perfect sense, since the king is the person who holds the power and is therefore someone who can share it.


A king is a “power bearer”.


Then, if a dragon is power and a king a power bearer, you have a king that’s a “dragon bearer”: King’s powerful blood that can be spread thanks to his seed to create more “dragons”.


But the prophecy is about a prince and his seed, not a king.


Then we must look for a powerful prince that has the “dragon seed”, or the “power” seed.


Forget for a moment that the Targaryen’s exist. This is a prophecy about the Long Night, the Others and power.


We are again left with the Starks, and how shouldn’t we? That family is a living testimony of the long night: they exist because of the long night. Their power was born in the aftermath of that war, their “dragon” hatched thanks to the long night.


And that is when things get “curious”; because not only do they have a legend about a Stark prince sharing his “seed” around, but they have two: the night’s king and the maiden that Bael the bard loved.


The First Stark prince that shares his “powerful seed” is John Doe Stark, later known as “The Night’s King”.


“The gathering gloom put Bran in mind of another of Old Nan's stories, the tale of Night's King. He had been the thirteenth man to lead the Night's Watch, she said; a warrior who knew no fear. "And that was the fault in him," she would add, "for all men must know fear." A woman was his downfall; a woman glimpsed from atop the Wall, with skin as white as the moon and eyes like blue stars. Fearing nothing, he chased her and caught her and loved her, though her skin was cold as ice, and when he gave his seed to her he gave his soul as well.

He brought her back to the Nightfort and proclaimed her a queen and himself her king, and with strange sorceries he bound his Sworn Brothers to his will. For thirteen years they had ruled, Night's King and his corpse queen, till finally the Stark of Winterfell and Joramun of the wildlings had joined to free the Watch from bondage. After his fall, when it was found he had been sacrificing to the Others, all records of Night's King had been destroyed, his very name forbidden.” A Storm of Swords - Bran IV



Forget for a moment about how the others look. Just think of them as different people, foreigners if you will.

Now forget about the NW and the vows, and remember this is a prince that we are talking about, a brother to a king, or queen.

This prince goes on and marries a foreigner, and then proceeds to give her “his seed” and proclaim her as queen.

See the problem? Right there you have a civil war in the north, a “dance of direwolves”.


So the King does what kings do, he brings down this wannabe king. But there’s a HUGE problem, because the rebel prince “had been sacrificing”, and by now we know exactly what that means, thanks to Craster.

So King Stark does what a king does when he needs to hold his power within his family, he ends his brother blood line, Tywin style. No more Night pretenders.

But, if that’s the case, why “all records of Night's King had been destroyed, his very name forbidden”?

Because, they couldn’t find all the kids, there was still at least one little Night’s prince or princess around. So King Stark does what he must to protect his family, and destroy any proof that this man ever existed, that way, in the event that an heir comes claiming Winterfell is his (or hers), there’s no way to prove it, there’s no record that this prince ever existed.  Not to mention the magic that actually exists in the winterfell Crypts.


finally the Stark of Winterfell and Joramun of the wildlings had joined to free the Watch from bondage”.


The thing that always bothered me the most about this legend is this union between wildlings and Starks. Not to mention the wildlings aiding the Watch. They supposed to hate each other guts.  Why on earth would the wildlings join the Starks to bring down some rebel brother and help the watch?




'All I ask is a flower,' Bael answered, 'the fairest flower that blooms in the gardens o' Winterfell.'"

"Now as it happened the winter roses had only then come into bloom, and no flower is so rare nor precious. So the Stark sent to his glass gardens and commanded that the most beautiful o' the winter roses be plucked for the singer's payment. And so it was done. But when morning come, the singer had vanished . . . and so had Lord Brandon's maiden daughter. Her bed they found empty, but for the pale blue rose that Bael had left on the pillow where her head had lain."


Winter roses and Stark maidens are so related that I’m not even going to explain this.

If you are the only daughter of a powerful king, then of course you are “rare” and “precious”. What’s also rare is a Stark joining with the wildlings, but an army that can help you rise to power is precious too, so you marry off your only daughter to a wildling because that’s the price. 


King Stark needed that army desperately. So, “Bael” is in fact “Joramun”, the King-beyond-the-wall, the bearer of the winter horn, (or the father of the next Stark) the person that helped the Stark king to put an end to his brother and married his only daughter. And that’s how the Starks became half wildlings, and half “other” things.

The Winter Horn is a baby Stark.


"Lord Brandon had no other children. At his behest, the black crows flew forth from their castles in the hundreds, but nowhere could they find any sign o' Bael or this maid. For most a year they searched, till the lord lost heart and took to his bed, and it seemed as though the line o' Starks was at its end. But one night as he lay waiting to die, Lord Brandon heard a child's cry. He followed the sound and found his daughter back in her bedchamber, asleep with a babe at her breast." (…) "No. They had been in Winterfell all the time, hiding with the dead beneath the castle.”

“Hiding with the dead beneath the castle” references to the lineage of Starks in the Crypts.


And that’s also the story of how the NW freed from the bondage they had with their “proclaimed” King. Because they were nothing but the Night’s King guards, not guards of the rebel prince that married the other girl, but his father’s, the original Night King, and when the war between the brothers begun, they got caught in the middle, with an impossible choice: help the brother that married the foreigner woman, or help the maiden that married Joramun, the other outsider. What would you do?


Look at what that happened with the kings guard during Robert’s rebellion. They all choose a side.


We’ll talk about the Watch and their watch later.

If you agree with this reasoning, then by now you must know where I am heading with all these: this is a story of the “dance” for the succession. But is more than a matter of succession, because Winterfell is a magical place, and it could unleash another long night upon the world, a very long night.


That’s why is so important that Jon can prove that he is who he says he is.  


2)The north remembers: the “gods” involvement


The crypts of Winterfell are stone “written” proof of a cold and unbroken line of succession.  But not only that, the castle is located were “Winter” literally fell…upon his enemies. Winterfell marks the spot where the enemy was defeated and the pact between Joramun and the Night princess was sealed with a marriage. The marriage of Joramun, the “Winter” prince of the wildlings, and the Night’s princess is what we now know as House Stark.  


Look at their banner: a grey direwolf on white snow: the direwolf is grey because of the union of a White “direwolf” and Night princess. Black and white: grey. Their words are winter is coming: if you mess with us, our “winter wolves” will come howling from the north.


So why did winter came? Why did this war begun?


Because Ned lied, and because Winter couldn’t forget or forgive, and the Watch woke up, and they can’t just stay there to watch and wait, they have what they’ve been waiting: the promised prince.


Jon is already “chosen” and the Watch “woke up” because they have their promised prince, it’s time to take side.


“The Starks were not like other men. Ned brought his bastard home with him, and called him "son" for all the north to see


When Ned called Jon a “bastard” for all the north to see, he not only stripped him away from his birthright, which of course is wrong (though kinda justified) he allowed for his kin to  have a claim to Winterfell. You know who’s Jon’s kin is? The Mother of the freaking fire breathing dragons.

He saved Jon from Robert and the Lannisters, but he doomed his own family.  

No happy choices and no happy endings.


After thousands years, the “gods” are faced again with two starks that married an “other”.

But Ned is in a dire position, and to make it even worse, he is responsible for his little brother’s decision to join the Watch, which of course, could bind the watch to his power, and prevent them to do what they should do to END the watch. Things look really bad for Ned.


See the problem?


There’s a new “Night’s King” situation in the North. A civil war is knocking on the doors of Winterfell


Ned married an “other”, but it’s not Cat, is Robert Baratheon.


Why would Benjen join the Watch? I’ve always wondered. When Ned came back from the war, Benjen was a solid replacement in case something happened to Ned or his only heir, Robb, that at the time was a baby, and babies die all the time. Not to mention that as a second son he had much better prospects than being a man of the Watch.

I think the answer is Jon.  I think Benjen didn’t agree to Ned’s solution for his sister “problem”; I think Ben wanted to press Jon’s rights to the throne,or at least tell the truth to the kid sometime. But Ned chose his buddy Robert over his nephew.  And Benjen went to the Wall, because he couldn’t stand to “serve” a brother that chose an “other” over his own family.


"Then a long cruel winter fell," said Ser Bartimus. "The White Knife froze hard, and even the firth was icing up. The winds came howling from the north and drove them slavers inside to huddle round their fires, and whilst they warmed themselves the new king come down on them. Brandon Stark this was, Edrick Snowbeard's great-grandson, him that men called Ice Eyes. He took the Wolf's Den back, stripped the slavers naked, and gave them to the slaves he'd found chained up in the dungeons. It's said they hung their entrails in the branches of the heart tree, as an offering to the gods. The old gods, not these new ones from the south. Your Seven don't know winter, and winter don't know them."



And winter is coming.


Why did “the others” killed Wymar? The first person we’ve met and the first that’s killed by a walker. Because he’s a fucking bully. And Winter hates bullies.


“Winter” warn Ned: I know what you’re doing, and you know what you are doing, please stop doing it. The gods or Bloodraven sent the direwolves as a wakeup call for Ned, but he wasn’t paying attention, especially to the very distinctive direwolf that he’s nephew found.


But when at his wife behest, he sent Jon to the Wall, it was just too much shit, so winter declares war.


For Ned, a man was his downfall: his best friend and “brother” Robert Baratheon, bad king and worst father.


By sending Jon to the Wall, were he had to take a sacred vow by which essentially he resigns to his rights without even knowing what he was giving up to, he marked his days.  Because it was wrong.  

And Winter came with a vengeance. A cold and familiar vengeance.   


So winter finally came, and Jon needed to die and be freed of that oath.


3) The Queen of love and wolves and the Night’s Watch guard.


I won’t go over the whole story, because at this point everyone knows that the Knight of the laughing tree is Lyanna Stark.


What’s important is not who the knight was, but what she did.


“The Knight of the Laughing Tree was a mystery knight who fought at the tourney at Harrenhal in 281 AC. He defended the honor of a crannogman by challenging and defeating three knights whose squires had bullied the crannogman, demanding that they chastise the squires in order to ransom back their horses and armor.

The Knight of the Laughing Tree is so-called because of the blazon on his shield, a smiling weirwood. His true identity remains unknown. According to a semi-canon source, the bullied crannogman was Howland Reed”


She defended the honor of a crannogman by challenging and defeating three knights, and that gained her, as we know, the title of “queen of love and beauty”.


See, right there you have what a good king is supposed to do, and even more, what a Stark king is supposed to represent.


"Hush, child," said Lady Leona. "You heard your lord grandfather. Hush! You know nothing." "I know about the promise," insisted the girl. "Maester Theomore, tell them! A thousand years before the Conquest, a promise was made, and oaths were sworn in the Wolf's Den before the old gods and the new. When we were sore beset and friendless, hounded from our homes and in peril of our lives, the wolves took us in and nourished us and protected us against our enemies. The city is built upon the land they gave us. In return we swore that we should always be their men. Stark men!"


A wolf protects his pack.


"Let me tell you something about wolves, child. When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives.”


And Lyanna protected her pack. Lyanna did what the Starks are supposed to do.


Now look at the Reed’s oath:


To Winterfell we pledge the faith of Greywater. Hearth and harvest and we yield up to you, my lord. Our swords and spears and arrows are yours to command. Grant mercy to our weak, help to our helpless, and justice to all, and we shall never fail you." — Both

"I swear it by earth and water." — Jojen

"I swear it by bronze and iron." — Meera

"We swear it by ice and fire." — Both


When Howland needed mercy, help and justice, it was Lyanna that stood up for him, not any of the Starks men. Not a single one of them.


It was Lyanna the she-wolf that nourished him, and protected him from his enemies. It was Lyanna that kept the promise.

And when Lyanna died, and his son, the prince that was promised, what do you think that Lyanna did?


"They were the Kings of Winter," Bran whispered. Somehow it felt wrong to talk too loudly in this place.

Osha smiled. "Winter's got no king. If you'd seen it, you'd know that, summer boy."


Of course not. WINTER’S GOT A QUEEN, a Queen of Love and Beauty, mother of the “Promised Prince”, Lyanna Stark.


Now, you understand why she killed Waymar the bully Royce, and only him. She’s got nothing against the Night’s Watch, her brother is in the Night’s Watch, her family “is” the watch. But Waymar wasn’t a worthy black brother, so Lyanna hunted him like the she-wolf she is and butchered him.


Winter is coming. She is coming with all her wroth and pain and vengeance, to help her baby boy get what’s his. Because Jon is the promised prince, and it’s been known in the north since the dawn of days.


I’ll get back later to Lyanna and her white walkers “companions” later.  


The Night’s Watch have been holding the secret of “The prince that was promised” in plain sight since the end of the Long Night.


Let’s reveal the northern prophecy of the promised prince, so we can move on with the “mother of ice”.


The promised prince is of course, the prince that can unite the north again, the whole north, and because of his father’s blood line, the entire continent, as prophecy and maybe love, wants and to put an end to this weather madness and blood shed over a horrible throne.  


That’s why Jon needs to find out exactly who he is. And that is why, despise of his own wishes, he would probably end up as king.

It’s been in our face since the beginning.


“Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crowns and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the fire that burns against the cold, the light that brings the dawn, the horn that wakes the sleepers, the shield that guards the realms of men. I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all the nights to come.”


The night’s watch oath contains the promised prince prophecy, northern edition; the person that is a “three headed dragon” and will end the second long night and the Night’s Watch watch.  


Jon is the prince that was promised.


The night’s watch have been waiting (and taking no part) for the true king for thousands of years, and they made sure to never been caught off guard by memorizing who the prince was supposed to be, and promising they would never stop looking for him, giving their life and honor for the cause.


Now, the prophecy is in sets of two pairs, and each pair represents a “head” of the lineage that the prince has in his blood:  the mother, the father and the son. So there’s no way to confuse him.


a)   I am the sword in the darkness, I am the watcher on the walls

A sword in the darkness refers to a “sword” or knight or person that is hidden or concealed, and of course the “watchers” on the walls are the weirwood trees. Making the “knight of the laughing tree” the mother, Lyanna Stark.


b)   I am the fire that burns against the cold, The light that brings the dawn

The fire that burns against the cold is the “fire” or dragon blood, that “burns” against the cold of his icy lady Lyanna.

 The light that brings the dawn, is the knowledge that will bring the Dawn, or a new era to Westeros

The knowledge is of course the revelation that Jon is Rhaegar’s son and heir.


c)    The horn that wakes the sleepers, The shield that guards the realms of men


The horn is Jon, a baby crying at birth is “a horn”, plus Jon can be seen as “the horn of winter” given that his mother is at this moment literally winter.

And he’s the shield because under both of his names, he should be able to unite westeros.




4) The mother of frozen bastards.


"The Others," Old Nan agreed. "Thousands and thousands of years ago, a winter fell that was cold and hard and endless beyond all memory of man. There came a night that lasted a generation, and kings shivered and died in their castles even as the swineherds in their hovels. Women smothered their children rather than see them starve, and cried, and felt their tears freeze on their cheeks." Her voice and her needles fell silent, and she glanced up at Bran (…)

 “Women smothered their children rather than see them starve, and cried”

There’s nothing that a mother wouldn’t do for her children.  And if you are a mother that’s trapped in a magical crypt what would do for your son? At the very least call him.


The castle is always empty." He had never told anyone of the dream, and he did not understand why he was telling Sam now, yet somehow it felt good to talk of it. "Even the ravens are gone from the rookery, and the stables are full of bones. That always scares me. I start to run then, throwing open doors, climbing the tower three steps at a time, screaming for someone, for anyone. And then I find myself in front of the door to the crypts. It's black inside, and I can see the steps spiraling down. Somehow I know I have to go down there, but I don't want to. I'm afraid of what might be waiting for me. The old Kings of Winter are down there, sitting on their thrones with stone wolves at their feet and iron swords across their laps, but it's not them I'm afraid of. I scream that I'm not a Stark, that this isn't my place, but it's no good, I have to go anyway, so I start down, feeling the walls as I descend, with no torch to light the way. It gets darker and darker, until I want to scream.” A Game of Thrones - Jon IV

See? Wouldn’t you be blinded by hate? You are dead, you try to reach your son in dreams and the poor kid is scared of you, doesn’t know shit about you, and then goes on and screams that HE IS NOT A STARK.

I would get out of my grave and kick Ned’s ass. Seriously.


 "In that darkness, the Others came for the first time," she said as her needles went click click click. "They were cold things, dead things, that hated iron and fire and the touch of the sun, and every creature with hot blood in its veins. They swept over holdfasts and cities and kingdoms, felled heroes and armies by the score, riding their pale dead horses and leading hosts of the slain. All the swords of men could not stay their advance, and even maidens and suckling babes found no pity in them.”


Lyanna is cold and very dead, as for the iron and fire...I really don’t think those work very well on her. Funny thing, what could kill her (again) is dragon related things: dragonsteel, dragonglass.  


Now, at this point, we know that Lyanna is “the Winter Queen” but who are the other walkers that watch her kill Waymar Royce.


"The boy's brothers," said the old woman on the left. "Craster's sons. The white cold's raising out there, crow. I can feel it in my bones. These poor old bones don't lie. They'll be here soon, the sons."


Lyanna has been taking Craster’s sons. And she is not killing them, she’s raising them. They are her pack now.


I swear I want to cry.


5) The hunting of a bully: Murdering Ser Wymar Royce



 “Dead men sing no songs”


Are they dead?” Royce asked softly. “What proof have we?”


 In this point I’ll try to prove that Ser Wymar was hunted, and that the hunters (Lyanna and her pack) behaved like wolves, which supports my theory that the “white walkers” are in fact some kind of dead human dire-warewolf.



“All day, Will had felt as though something were watching him, something cold and implacable that loved him not.”

Something cold and implacable is clearly Lyanna Winter Stark.


“Somewhere off in the wood a wolf howled”


“There’s something wrong here,” Gared muttered. The young knight gave him a disdainful smile. “Is there?” “Can’t you feel it?” Gared asked. “Listen to the darkness.” Will could feel it. Four years in the Night’s Watch, and he had never been so afraid. What was it? “Wind. Trees rustling. A wolf. Which sound is it that unmans you so, Gared?”

We need a fire. I’ll see to it.” “How big a fool are you, old man? If there are enemies in this wood, a fire is the last thing we want.” “There’s some enemies a fire will keep away,” Gared said. “Bears and direwolves and. . . and other things. . .”

The Others made no sound. Will saw movement from the corner of his eye. Pale shapes gliding through the wood. He turned his head, glimpsed a white shadow in the darkness. Then it was gone.”

A white shadow, a white weirwood, our lady Lyanna loves her white.


Do you know how wolves hunt? This is form livingwithwolves.org

“What the wolf lacks in size, power and weapons it makes up for with collaboration and intelligence. (…)Wolves are opportunists. They test their prey, sensing any weakness or vulnerability through visual cues and even through hearing and scent. Contrary to ambush predators that rely on the element of surprise and a short and intense burst of energy to secure their prey, wolves are endurance or coursing predators. They chase their prey, often over longer distances, sometimes even a few miles, in order to find the right animal or opportunity. On the hunt, wolves work together (…)A wolf pack may trail a herd of elk, caribou or other large prey for days before making its move. (…)The youngest wolves frequently do nothing more than observe and learn from the sidelines.


Our winter wolves have power (they bring the cold) and have lethal weapons, so that’s a huge improvement on real world wolves.


A shadow emerged from the dark of the wood. It stood in front of Royce. Tall, it was, and gaunt and hard as old bones, with flesh pale as milk. Its armor seemed to change color as it moved; here it was white as new-fallen snow, there black as shadow, everywhere dappled with the deep grey-green of the trees. The patterns ran like moonlight on water with every step it took”


Our “white shadow” or white walker is described as tall, and gaunt and hard. Direwolves are taller than regular wolves. As for “gaunt”:


“Fear is for the long night, when the sun hides its face for years at a time, and little children are born and live and die all in darkness while the direwolves grow gaunt and hungry, and the white walkers move through the woods."


Old Nan is talking about the direwolves and immediately makes the connection to white walkers, because they are “related”. The walkers armor is white as snow, black as shadow, everywhere grey. So Stark-ish.


At this point ser Waymar faces Lyanna and is about to fight her.


“They emerged silently from the shadows, twins to the first. Three of them. . . four. . . five. . . Ser Waymar may have felt the cold that came with them, but he never saw them, never heard them.”


The walkers move in group, they are a pack of “wolves”


“Behind him, to right, to left, all around him, the watchers stood patient, faceless, silent, the shifting patterns of their delicate armor making them all but invisible in the wood. Yet they made no move to interfere.”


The youngest wolves frequently do nothing more than observe and learn from the sidelines.


The Other said something in a language that Will did not know; his voice was like the cracking of ice on a winter lake, and the words were mocking.”

Royce went to his knees, shrieking, and covered his eyes. Blood welled between his fingers. The watchers moved forward together, as if some signal had been given. Swords rose and fell, all in a deathly silence. It was cold butchery. The pale blades sliced through ringmail as if it were silk. Will closed his eyes. Far beneath him, he heard their voices and laughter sharp as icicles.”


 “My mother told me that dead men sing no songs” do you know how is the wolves howl called? A SONG

And speaking of songs:

As Daenerys Targaryen rose to her feet, her black hissed, pale smoke venting from its mouth and nostrils. The other two pulled away from her breasts and added their voices to the call, translucent wings unfolding and stirring the air, and for the first time in hundreds of years, the night came alive with the music of dragons.”


There’s our song of ICE and FIRE



"Do they keep a bear down here?" Brienne was moving, slow and wary, sword to hand; step, turn, and listen. Each step made a little splash. "A cave lion? Direwolves? Some bear? Tell me, Jaime. What lives here? What lives in the darkness?"

"Doom." No bear, he knew. No lion. "Only doom."




6) The letter, the Boltons and the promise.


 You know why Winter really is going to come? Because Ramsey Bolton would claim HE is Lyanna’s son. He signed the Pink Letter as “trueborn” heir to Winterfell.


And of course Lyanna isn’t going to allow that


And you know how is she going to make sure that her baby boy gets what she and her father gave their lives to give him? She’s going to face him in battle and she’s going to lose. So her son can become the chosen hero. The worlds savior, Azor Ahai and the Prince that was Promised and the end of the Watch.


You don’t get more bittersweet than this.


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4 hours ago, Gimena Aguerreberry Torres said:


There does not need to be a specific character who is one or the other. They are characters meant to serve as plot points to the journeys of other characters 

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I think, that three heads of the dragon, all of them promised in prophecies (from Westeros, Dothraki, and Asshai), are:

1. Dany - she will wake dragons from stone, actual three dragons (Drogon, Rhaegel, Viseryon) and a metaphorical dragon. She will reveal Jon's real identity, that he is son of Lyanna and Rhaegar, he is winged stone beast from Dany's vision: "From a smoking tower, a great stone beast took wing, breathing shadow fire. . . . mother of dragons, slayer of lies". Dany will slay a lie, that Jon is Ned Stark's bastard, same as she will slay a lie, that fAegon is Rhaegar's son (mummers dragon - parallel to Biblical Antichrist, and the beast out of the sea, with one mortally wounded head), and that Stannis is Azor Ahai (king without a shadow). 

2. Rhaego - Dothraki prophecy about his birth has many parallels to Biblical prophecy about Jesus. Actually, all three of them (Dany, Rhaego and Jon) are GRRM's parallels to Jesus, and Second Long Night is GRRM's version of events described in The Book of Revelation, the last part of the Bible, about Apocalypse. Rhaego, who is the Stallion that mounts the world, and Khal of Khals is a parallel to Jesus, who was referred to as King of kings and Lord of lords. Also it was said in the Bible, that Jesus is the great shepherd, that will lead all nations, and about Rhaego it was said in the prophecy - "The stallion is the khal of khals promised in ancient prophecy, child. He will unite the Dothraki into a single khalasar and ride to the ends of the earth, or so it was promised. All the people of the world will be his herd." - so Rhaego is the great shepherd, that will unite all nations, same as Jesus in the Bible.

3. Jon - he is new Azor Ahai, and Dawn sword of Daynes is his Lightbringer. In the Bible Jesus called himself morning star. And in ASOIAF the wielder of Dawn is called the Sword of the Morning. Morning star is planet Venus, and its Latin name is Lucifer, which means "light-bringer" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer

Jon will become a dragonrider, and his dragon will be Viseryon. Jon is a parallel to warrior-Jesus: "Now I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And He who sat on him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war. His eyes were like a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns. He had a name written that no one knew except Himself." <- Jon's real name is Aegon, and he will have many crowns, because he will be the King of Seven Kingdoms (GRRM needed for Westeros to be 7K, even though Iron Islands are small and insignificant, they were still considered as one of 7K, because in the Book of Revellation Jesus was wearing 7 crowns.) Jon was killed and will be resurrected by the power of R'hllor. It will prove, that he is Azor Ahai reborn. So he's also a parallel to the Lamb of God - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamb_of_God

And the song of Ice and Fire is a parallel to Biblical song of the Lamb. So if GRRM will follow with Jon's plot Biblical pattern, then Jon will marry with Dany, after it will be revealed, that he is rightful King of 7K. Dany is the Lamb's bride (also a Biblical figure). So there will be a big wedding, and they will build a new city, that will replace King's Landing, and they will invite all people of 7K to live with them in that city, and there will be no "night" there, like in the Biblical new Jerusalem.

And this fragment of the Bible is describing Cersei's and King's Landing's fate: "As she glorified herself and lived in luxury, so give her a like measure of torment and mourning, since in her heart she says, ‘I sit as a queen, I am no widow, and mourning I shall never see.’ For this reason her plagues will come in a single day, death and mourning and famine, and she will be burned up with fire; for mighty is the Lord God who has judged her." Cersei will be burned, probably, by dragonfire.

So three heads of the dragon is GRRM's parallel to the Holy Trinity, his version of it is the Mother (Dany, Drogon's rider), the Son (Rhaego, Rhaegel's rider), and the Holy Spirit/Ghost (Jon, Viseryon's rider; which one of them will ride which dragon, was hinted by GRRM in AGOT, Dany X).

And the Night's King's identity is irrelevant, he's dead, and even if he and his Corpse Queen had children, it also doesn't matter. Because Starks themselves are carriers of "cursed" blood. They made a Pact with the Children, according to which they were supposed to give sacrifices to the Old Gods and their creations, the Others. So abbility of Stark-children to warg, and to see green dreams, is caused by their blood, those abbilities were given to them by the Children, as part of the Pact. Maybe, Bael the Bard was descendant of Night's King and his Queen, so thru his son with the Stark girl, current Starks are carriers of Corpse Queen's genes. But it doesn't matter, because they were "cursed" even before that. What is more significant, than Night's King's identity, is the identity of the Great Other, and that is Bloodraven. He is GRRM's parallel to wizard Merlin. So, most likely, he got binded to the Weirwood by Shiera Seastar, who is GRRM's parallel to the mix of three mythological characters - Merlin's lovers Morgana le Fay and Nimue (water fairy and the Lady of the Lake), and Morrigan (Crow Goddess and Queen of Phantoms - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Morrígan). So Shiera is the Three-Eyed Crow and shadowbinder Quaithe. Could be, that that story, about Night's King, that ruled for 13 years, is not a fact out of 7K's history, but actually is a clue from GRRM, it's a hint, that Bloodraven and Shiera are Night's King, and his Corpse Queen, that has lured him beyond the Wall, and caused his downfall.

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