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Previous Watch, Watching and ReWatch thread over 400 posts, thus closed.  Here begins the new one.

I just began watching Succession (2018) Season 1 HBO. I would group this series with Billions – obscenely wealthy people behaving very badly, with not a single decent character among them.  Except Billions's characters are fascinating and their stories are interesting, the writing is very sharp and the interactions are extremely articulate, in a good way.  In every way the operative descriptor for Billions is smart.

However, though Succession's characters are indescribably rich, there isn’t  glimmer of likeability among any of the many Succession characters – and not a single interesting one.  They are disgusting, ignorant and boring.  They are coarse, stupid and mean, so petty.  They are NOT articulate, and do not have a single original thought in their heads -- they take everything they say from pop culture, particularly urban culture from which they are removed by about a thousand billion dollars.  They are trumps. 

Whereas I can't wait for season 4 of Billions, I'm not sure I can put up with these intentionally awful sorts who aren't even attractive, much interesting, and who already dominate all the media cycles and suck all the oxygen from anything that matters or is even interesting to themselves.  This is all intentional by the writers.  The series has garnered a lot of favorable critical buzz.

By the way, Matthew Macfadyen, is part of the cast, and he's just frackin' weird, but not interesting.  Mean.

Maybe this will grab me over further viewing?  But it better be soon, as my patience for mean and stupid is non-existant! 

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2 hours ago, Zorral said:

Previous Watch, Watching and ReWatch thread over 400 posts, thus closed.  Here begins the new one.

I just began watching Succession (2018) Season 1 HBO. I would group this series with Billions – obscenely wealthy people behaving very badly, with not a single decent character among them.  Except Billions's characters are fascinating and their stories are interesting, the writing is very sharp and the interactions are extremely articulate, in a good way.  In every way the operative descriptor for Billions is smart.

However, though Succession's characters are indescribably rich, there isn’t  glimmer of likeability among any of the many Succession characters – and not a single interesting one.  They are disgusting, ignorant and boring.  They are coarse, stupid and mean, so petty.  They are NOT articulate, and do not have a single original thought in their heads -- they take everything they say from pop culture, particularly urban culture from which they are removed by about a thousand billion dollars.  They are trumps. 

Whereas I can't wait for season 4 of Billions, I'm not sure I can put up with these intentionally awful sorts who aren't even attractive, much interesting, and who already dominate all the media cycles and suck all the oxygen from anything that matters or is even interesting to themselves.  This is all intentional by the writers.  The series has garnered a lot of favorable critical buzz.

By the way, Matthew Macfadyen, is part of the cast, and he's just frackin' weird, but not interesting.  Mean.

Maybe this will grab me over further viewing?  But it better be soon, as my patience for mean and stupid is non-existant! 

How much of Succession did you watch? I felt that way early and it morphed. I still didn't like the characters but I felt for a lot of them. I thought the show started meh and turned fantastic by end.

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50 minutes ago, Mexal said:

How much of Succession did you watch? I felt that way early and it morphed. I still didn't like the characters but I felt for a lot of them. I thought the show started meh and turned fantastic by end.

I had seen one and a half episodes when I wrote that.  I really despised it all, but have been willing to give it more time because, as you say, 1 1/2 episodes.

As I've gotten really sick I just finished the second half and the third episode. I'm still waiting for jell time.  But so far I don't think I can put up with Tom being such a horror to Greg -- not that he doesn't attract it, just as Tom does. 

Really, how in hell can people this stupid end up with ALL the MONEY?  Clearly, what they'ver got is nothing more than all the rest of the obscenely wealthy -- dominance of the greatest fantasy ponzi schemes in the history of the world. Tulips are nothing to what these guys do, who run our countries and economics.

But how much of that each ep must I be subjected to?  But! there are more eps to go, and I'm not going anywhere.

At least in Billions in the sociopaths are also really smart and talented with numbers.  Succession people can't even speak three words together.

Achoo! Achoo!  Achoo! every 2 - 3 minutes.

 

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We've watched the first couple of episodes of Sex Education on Netflix.  Reasonably funny with an offbeat kind of humor and lots of awkardness.  I'm guessing we'll continue to watch episodes for variety from other genres.

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I got Netflix recently so I've been watching Happy!, which is on there everywhere aside from the US as I understand it (where it's a SyFy joint).

Cracking show. Great self-aware black comedy with real emotion bubbling udnerneath, I've been comparing to to Shane Black mixed with Crank (not surprising, one of Crank's directors showruns) and it's also got more than a dash of Deadpool thrown in (though I like this season more than either Deadpool film).

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I finally saw Sicario: Day of the Soldado. Fairly average film with a good scene or two and a terrible ending.

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1 hour ago, polishgenius said:

I got Netflix recently so I've been watching Happy!, which is on there everywhere aside from the US as I understand it (where it's a SyFy joint).

Cracking show. Great self-aware black comedy with real emotion bubbling udnerneath, I've been comparing to to Shane Black mixed with Crank (not surprising, one of Crank's directors showruns) and it's also got more than a dash of Deadpool thrown in (though I like this season more than either Deadpool film).

I keep meaning to watch that, other things keep taking precedence though.

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I can't believe I'd never heard of nor seen Nathan for you until yesterday afternoon. I guess its never been on UK tv, but holy cow I've binged the hell out of it and wet myself laughing at the same time.

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10 hours ago, Iskaral Pust said:

We've watched the first couple of episodes of Sex Education on Netflix.  Reasonably funny with an offbeat kind of humor and lots of awkardness.  I'm guessing we'll continue to watch episodes for variety from other genres.

My take as well. I can't binge it, but will do my best to watch it.

A long flight with few viewing options had me rewatching Bad Times at the El Royale. I liked it a lot more the second time through. I like non-linear stories, but this one just has too much going on. It makes the first viewing a bit jarring. Once you know how much it will bounce around, it becomes a lot easier to enjoy the story.

Also, Game Night. Not terrible. 

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Had a few days off and some shit weather so tv time was high.

Finished S2 of Travelers on Netflix, pretty decent season if you are into time travel stuff. Started S3, will finish this weekend.

Finished Jack Ryan on Amazon, really well done show, unfortunately I figured out the thing so not surprised. I thought it did a good job building the side characters up and still had to to shoot people and blow shit up.

Saw Replicas at the movies. Went in with very low expectations and came out pretty happy. The previews/movie title make it obvious whats going to happen (suspend reality about cloning and you'll be ok) but I just felt like it was done pretty well with an ending that I actually liked.

 

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Finished the last season of Fortitude.

 

wtf happened? It's almost a different show to season 1.

Coincidental that the same actor has had two of his characters castrated in recent shows.

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Second ep of Deadly Class is out, and it's significantly better than the first. The casting is much better and I enjoyed Saya in this ep a lot more, and the chemistry of the class is phenomenal. 

Plus, Lex having a fight with a giant dildo against Saya's sword was amazing.

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I thought I'd seen every Black Mirror episode but realized that I'd completely missed The Entire History of You from season 1 and finally watched it.  It has vaulted up to being one of my favorites.  Great in concept and execution.  

 

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On 1/23/2019 at 3:37 PM, Mexal said:

How much of Succession did you watch? I felt that way early and it morphed. I still didn't like the characters but I felt for a lot of them. I thought the show started meh and turned fantastic by end.

I haven't watched it (it's on the list), but from everything I've read it's a tale of two halves.  If you can get through the first half, the second half is amazing, apparently. 

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I can definitely echo the oft-shared sentiment that Succession goes places that might surprise given the first 3 or so episodes.  Zorral's take on the early episodes is definitely the norm, but a lot of people that stuck with it ended up glad that they did.  Difficult to say on an individual basis if one should go on, but definitely some that are not down after a few will be rewarded for continuing.  

ETA:  Watched Brexit.  I enjoyed it.  I'm an HBO guy and a political junkie, so it was right up my alley.  Rory Kinnear is all class.  Not sure it's a must-see film for everyone though.  

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I watched the US premiere of the CBC series Pure about a Mennonite pastor who gets lured into the drug trade and Mennonite mob. Intriguing premise and pilot.

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10 hours ago, Triskele said:

I can definitely echo the oft-shared sentiment that Succession goes places that might surprise given the first 3 or so episodes.  Zorral's take on the early episodes is definitely the norm, but a lot of people that stuck with it ended up glad that they did.  Difficult to say on an individual basis if one should go on, but definitely some that are not down after a few will be rewarded for continuing.  

 

Thanks for the information.  I have watched now the first three episodes only.  I'll start the next ones tonight -- if only in hopes that Shiv (could she have a more apt name?, though the entire family are shivs in the back, in the dark, except they are all too transparent and stupid -- so far) will wear something that isn't a rag bag of baby-poop brown, pilled polyester -- which also looks like it could do with a launder.  I can't believe that someone in her line of business as a political campaign operative and her money dresses like that.

 

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I've been binge watching The 100 and just finished the first season  It's good if you can accept it for what it is, a scifi soap opera.

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On 1/23/2019 at 5:13 PM, polishgenius said:

I got Netflix recently so I've been watching Happy!, which is on there everywhere aside from the US as I understand it (where it's a SyFy joint).

Cracking show. Great self-aware black comedy with real emotion bubbling udnerneath, I've been comparing to to Shane Black mixed with Crank (not surprising, one of Crank's directors showruns) and it's also got more than a dash of Deadpool thrown in (though I like this season more than either Deadpool film).

Netflix has it in the U.S.

I expect it's one of those shows like Shameless, The Good Place, Get Shorty, etc. that run their entire season exclusively on their respective networks than some months later or just before the premiere of the next season, the previous season shows up on Netflix.

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There's a few A-list shows airing as I post.... Counterpart, first and foremost (Top 5 show for me)... Outlander, True Detective, Star Trek Discovery....

... The Magicians is back , which is awesome because that show is fun AF... and Deadly Class seems like a hoot. ... Love The Orville & the Gifted... Berlin Station is still pretty good...

... But the show that's prompting this post is "A Discovery of Witches".... it takes a couple of episodes to get going, but I am really digging it. 

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