MushroomIsNoFool Posted February 26, 2019 Author Share Posted February 26, 2019 Adding facts... After Vyserion and Rhaegal were released, while Barristan the Bold was arresting Hizdahr in Meereen, it rained copiously the very next day in the city... And the dragons didn't showed up that day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Commentator Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 2 hours ago, MushroomIsNoFool said: Adding facts... After Vyserion and Rhaegal were released, while Barristan the Bold was arresting Hizdahr in Meereen, it rained copiously the very next day in the city... And the dragons didn't showed up that day... Birds don't like to fly when it rains. Animals take shelter when it rains. It doesn't mean they can't handle getting wet though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MushroomIsNoFool Posted February 26, 2019 Author Share Posted February 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, Widowmaker 811 said: Birds don't like to fly when it rains. Animals take shelter when it rains. It doesn't mean they can't handle getting wet though. and it wasn't what I meant... Just adding facts... If the rider force the Dragon, the Dragon will do, inside reasonable limits... that's what I think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Commentator Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 59 minutes ago, MushroomIsNoFool said: and it wasn't what I meant... Just adding facts... If the rider force the Dragon, the Dragon will do, inside reasonable limits... that's what I think... I see. I must have misunderstood. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimessa Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 I believe that it’s much more comparable to when you’re flying in a video game and come across the border of the map. It’s an invisible wall that turns you away and is disorienting if you don’t recognize it’s the end. It’d be truly unsettling to have your steed irlooc flying like normal and then veer away from your intended goal three times especially after having no real issues with obedience. The dragon acts and feels in a certain way that horse people understand—you know your mount is sensing something strange and it begins to balk and turn away even if the border is negligible, like a horse crossing a small, slow stream or a dragon easily clearing a Wall. The Wall acts as a defining line in the sand where magic acts up. Certainly, the Heart of Winter and the Others further north are going to be unsettling for dragons—much like animals in the series get freaked out by the wiggits and their scent. But, direwolves can withstand the gruesome scent of wiggits & Others, and they’re technically just regular animals. Dragons, due to their being infused with magic and being intelligent in a direwolf-y way, would likely have a more complex relationship with & understanding of all that is cold and northern. It also doesn’t ring true to me that dragons will wholesale avoid the far north or are cowed by being within the barest proximity to the north as it would make the entire expedition north with Dany and her trio excruciating. Regular animals pass above the Wall (ravens) and thrive in the north (wolves, elk, etc)—but the only magic-infused animal we know, the dragon, is hung up on the Wall, which has been pointed out time and again to be a leyline of sorts for magic. Dragons not flying in the rain isn’t anything particularly to do with them being fire elementals. Storms screw with air pressure, it’s just not a pleasant thing to be in for any creature, and it ruins sight and scent. As quoted above, dragons prefer to hunt and play by positioning above the other—by messing with the air quality, sunlight, and their senses, it makes sense that they’d not want to play when confronted with rain. Humans, however, are headstrong and willful things and will push their steeds and companion animals to unnatural extremes because we see beyond what’s directly in front of us. So perhaps a bolder, bigger, badder dragon with a matched rider could push beyond the Wall—but I seriously think that it would be a frightening moment for anyone below to see that struggle between human and animal-demon. Edit to add: The way around the Wall as a limit is either by sea or by the Wall's defenses being shattered, say by a certain horn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syl of Syl Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Quote The Wall stops magic. We know that. Dragons were created by blood magic. Conclusion, it was the magic in the Wall that repelled Silverwing, not some King of the Others sitting up at the North Pole. Yep. This is the most likely reason. We see in Storm of Swords, Sam says this about Coldhands: Quote “The Wall. The Wall is more than just ice and stone, he said. There are spells woven into it . . . old ones, and strong. He cannot pass beyond the Wall.” (ASoS, Bran IV) Coldhands can't pass the wall for some magical reason. It's also been stated that the Wall's purpose is to stop the Others. It seemed pretty clear that the purpose of the Silverwing bit was to show that the Wall's magic stops dragons as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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