the Greenleif Stark Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: You think you did. But you didn't. Why do you all think the most 'athletic' people on earth are in a country with 1/20 of the worlds population? You think we don't have tall athletes in the rest of the world. And they haven't tried playing football? Well there's only 1 LeBron James..... comparing other 6'8 athletes to him is ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, Bronn Stone said: I'm sure you are right. You clearly know everything. A century of dominating Olympics in a fashion disproportional to population was just a blip. Norway says hello. Most successful winter Olympic country of all time with population of 5 million. Per capita the US isn't in the top 10 for summer Olympics A century of being the largest wealthy country who plays sports. Well done, you should be so proud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, the Greenleif Stark said: Well there's only 1 LeBron James..... comparing other 6'8 athletes to him is ridiculous Usain Bolt tried to play football. He is as big an outlier as James. He was fucking shite. Big and bulky and football = bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Greenleif Stark Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 15 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: Usain Bolt tried to play football. He is as big an outlier as James. He was fucking shite. Big and bulky and football = bad. Sprinting short distances very fast doesn't equate to being super athletic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 This whole argument about which sport is the most athletic overall is fucking silly coz 'athleticism' is such a wide range of things that no-one is going to be amazing at every single aspect of it, and every sport selects for something or other. And every sport has their great athletic achievers. For me, being a child of the sporting 90s, the three people I always associate with the kind of superathleticism being discussed are the aforementioned Roy Jones Jr, Brazilian Ronaldo, and Jonah Lomu. None of them are considered the best in their sport's history for various reasons, but in terms of sheer athletic talent and ability they're next level. As far as simply athletically freakish people go there is also MMA fighter Yoel Romero, an absolutely ludicrous specimen of a human being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, the Greenleif Stark said: Sprinting short distances very fast doesn't equate to being super athletic Neither does being more agile than other giants. He's very athletic for someone of his size. Not very athletic full stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Greenleif Stark Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 24 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: Neither does being more agile than other giants. He's very athletic for someone of his size. Not very athletic full stop. The thing is, he isn't just "more agile than other giants," and he isn't "very athletic for someone his size," he's just more agile than most athletes and more athletic, that simple, no caveat at the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dooog Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 hour ago, BigFatCoward said: Big goalkeepers can't get down. The goal is only 8ft high. You don't need to be freakishly tall. No, but being freakishly tall generally means your reach and wingspan will be longer which is obviously an advantage. The likes of Courtois, Van der Sar and Cech are all around 6'6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maithanet Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 hour ago, BigFatCoward said: Usain Bolt tried to play football. He is as big an outlier as James. He was fucking shite. Big and bulky and football = bad. This is a ridiculous comparison. Track and field requires much less general athleticism than basketball does. And Bolt tried soccer after his track career was over, at age 32, after having built his body to be a rocket for the past twenty years. Of course he failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, the Greenleif Stark said: The thing is, he isn't just "more agile than other giants," and he isn't "very athletic for someone his size," he's just more agile than most athletes and more athletic, that simple, no caveat at the end He's less athletic than most 6'2" players because being massive and athletic are not conducive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Maithanet said: This is a ridiculous comparison. Track and field requires much less general athleticism than basketball does. And Bolt tried soccer after his track career was over, at age 32, after having built his body to be a rocket for the past twenty years. Of course he failed. Decathletes disagree. And LeBron is what? 34? Loads of idiots have been banging on how being good at x translates to y. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, dooog said: No, but being freakishly tall generally means your reach and wingspan will be longer which is obviously an advantage. The likes of Courtois, Van der Sar and Cech are all around 6'6. What else are they? Lithe! Do they weigh 20 fucking stone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: He's less athletic than most 6'2" players because being massive and athletic are not conducive. He's really not though. Seriously, go watch some of the tape on LeBron. He's more athletic than everyone on the court every night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, Fez said: He's really not though. Seriously, go watch some of the tape on LeBron. He's more athletic than everyone on the court every night. No. Be has more total gifts that make him good at basketball. He's massive and very agile for his size Westbrook for example is off the charts more athletic than LeBron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I'm starting to realise how trump got elected. USA USA USA etc. You really think the greatest athlete on earth is a 20 stone 6 ft 8 behemoth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maithanet Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, BigFatCoward said: Decathletes disagree. Loads of idiots have been banging on how being good at x translates to y. Decathletes disagree that starting a second professional sport at age 32 sets yourself up for failure? I doubt that. And decathletes are hardly nonbiased on this issue of track vs basketball. While I've no doubt that decathletes are exceptionally athletic, if their athleticism were sufficient to be professional basketball/soccer/tennis players, they almost assuredly would be. The money is MUCH better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dooog Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, BigFatCoward said: What else are they? Lithe! Do they weigh 20 fucking stone? Lol your argument was "there's a reason goalkeepers aren't giants". There are plenty of great giant goalies. If we're still talking about LeBron, then obviously he would adapt his training methods to adjust to the most suited physical conditioning for a goalkeeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Bronn Stone said: I think that had he grown up in a country that focused on soccer, LeBron James might well have become an outstanding goalkeeper. Quick reflexes, incredible arm length and almost two meters tall. Lastly one attribute that LeBron has that translates to every sport, is an amazing work ethic. He won't be out trained by anyone. It's possible since LeBron is an incredible athlete. I just wanted to add that it takes more than the physical attributes you mentioned to be a top GK. There are many keepers around who are tall, have quick reflexes and are good shot stoppers but what separates the average to good to great is the decision making, positioning, anticipation, having good communication with and organising your defence and ball distribution. With his physical attributes, theoretically, he could have made a great CB too but even with that, defensive positioning and awareness, decision making, tackling technique, 1v1 defending and ball distribution are bigger factors. Using some big men as examples: he could be world class like Van Dijk or average like Yerry Mina - impossible to know whether or not he would possess the necessary skill set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, dooog said: Lol your argument was "there's a reason goalkeepers aren't giants". There are plenty of great giant goalies. If we're still talking about LeBron, then obviously he would adapt his training methods to adjust to the most suited physical conditioning for a goalkeeper. Have you seen his body shape? He's fucking ginormous. How does he get down to 15 stone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dooog Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, BigFatCoward said: Have you seen his body shape? He's fucking ginormous. How does he get down to 15 stone? I have noticed, it's almost as if he''s spent over 20 years putting on muscle mass in order to excel at his chosen sporting profession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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