Spockydog Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 And so it begins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosi Mynn Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 6 hours ago, HelenaExMachina said: Er, have you been living under a rock? This is frequently brought up both on this forum and the wider media It does. But people still seem perplexed/irrate/despairing at the lack of an effective opposition from the opposition party. It can't come from them with Corbyn in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Mosi Mynn said: It does. But people still seem perplexed/irrate/despairing at the lack of an effective opposition from the opposition party. It can't come from them with Corbyn in charge. Yeah exactly, some still seem to expect him to ride in and save the day, but he’s probably a harder Brexiteer than most Tories ( other than some daft ideas about customs unions). He isn’t just trying to appease some northern voters is what I’m getting at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pebble thats Stubby Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Heartofice said: Yeah exactly, some still seem to expect him to ride in and save the day, but he’s probably a harder Brexiteer than most Tories ( other than some daft ideas about customs unions). He isn’t just trying to appease some northern voters is what I’m getting at. Expect? Nope. vainly wish he would do his job and oppose things, give up on his red unicorn customs deal and actually back a 2nd ref as per what was agreed at his party conference. Or maybe just step down and let someone else who is willing to do the job actually do it. Its more like we are venting frustration, than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 56 minutes ago, Pebble said: Expect? Nope. vainly wish he would do his job and oppose things, give up on his red unicorn customs deal and actually back a 2nd ref as per what was agreed at his party conference. Or maybe just step down and let someone else who is willing to do the job actually do it. Its more like we are venting frustration, than anything else. There’s always the Lib Dems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 https://www.livefrombrexit.com/petitions/241584?fbclid=IwAR38cNTaftU-QYJX8LvThT1T8RFZDGvnTNyClchCtIyGzhbvD-VVaiAfe0Y Petition signatures broken down by constituency. Unsurprisingly its the Remain areas doing the most voting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maithanet Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 So, does anything need to happen to prevent Brexit this Friday? Is it just that Parliament/May need to request more time (something they certainly will?) Or is it more complicated than that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted March 25, 2019 Author Share Posted March 25, 2019 13 minutes ago, Maithanet said: So, does anything need to happen to prevent Brexit this Friday? Is it just that Parliament/May need to request more time (something they certainly will?) Or is it more complicated than that? Secondary legislation has been tabled to change the date, but that's apparently a formality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 She's finally conceded defeat. Now it's up to the House. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Which Tyler Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Spockydog said: She's finally conceded defeat. Now it's up to the House. Wanna get? She trying to cling on long enough, sewing enough (extra) discord for the can to have kicked closer to April 12th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 She also said this: 'Unless the House agrees to it, No Deal will not happen.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Spockydog said: She also said this: 'Unless the House agrees to it, No Deal will not happen.' At the same time, she said she would not accept any votes that'd go against the manifesto they were elected on. And she also dismissed a CU outcome. GL squaring that one. Meanwhile, the EU's working assumption is no deal on April 12th. But let's disect her unless the house agrees to it bit. In May's logic (judging by what've seen thus far from her) it's gonna be, if the house rejects my deal, they tacitly agree to no deal happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 19 minutes ago, A Horse Named Stranger said: At the same time, she said she would not accept any votes that'd go against the manifesto they were elected on. And she also dismissed a CU outcome. It doesn't really matter what she says she will or will not accept. She is no longer in charge. Of anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Remains to be seen. However, for the sake of the argument let's agree she is not in charge, then who is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, A Horse Named Stranger said: Remains to be seen. However, for the sake of the argument let's agree she is not in charge, then who is? Fucked if I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Which Tyler Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Well... So no deal won't happen without parliamentary approval, and is still the default absent parliamentary approval... We'll get indicative votes (on Wednesday?), but any indications will be ignored by government... Lucky were taking back control isn't it! IF we get a second referendum, the result will be ignored (unless it agrees with Theresa)... Oh yes, she still believes in what she said on Wednesday evening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 40 minutes ago, Which Tyler said: Well... So no deal won't happen without parliamentary approval, and is still the default absent parliamentary approval... We'll get indicative votes (on Wednesday?), but any indications will be ignored by government... Lucky were taking back control isn't it! IF we get a second referendum, the result will be ignored (unless it agrees with Theresa)... Oh yes, she still believes in what she said on Wednesday evening Parliament faces a simple and inescapable choice. A severe painful illness with Theresa's Deal, or the economic suicide of no-deal. In other words, no deal it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Which Tyler Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, A Horse Named Stranger said: Parliament faces a simple and inescapable choice. A severe painful illness with Theresa's Deal, or the economic suicide of no-deal. In other words, no deal it is. I still favour the Germany+ options, even though it's unlikely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Just now, Which Tyler said: I still favour the Germany+ options, even though it's unlikely Enjoying this insanity with some distance and an Irish Whiskey from a loge seat and with occasional snipes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Which Tyler Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 That'd be nice. Full member but several selfish vetoes, no Euro and give or take Schengen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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