A True Kaniggit Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I agree that Vegas is only fun in moderation. I go once about every two years as a cheap getaway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 hours ago, S John said: We've stayed at the Palazzo the last couple of times too and I agree that one is really great. I'm curious about the Wynn and Encore too, having walked through them last time, but Palazzo is my favorite one I've stayed in so far. Scot, why you worrying about restaurant prices if you are there on business? Expense that shit and live it up! I was certain I wouldn't like Vegas before I ever visited. Wrong. Fucking love it. The people watching is top notch, you can drink and smoke everywhere, amazing restaurants everywhere, spas, shows, cool nature nearby, etc, etc. I've been probably about 5 times. I think that depending on what you are doing there, 2 nights can be more than enough. Like if you are there to party, 2 days is definitely plenty of time to be there. But if you are kind if taking it easy, going to spas, seeing shows, hitting the nice restaurants, lightly gambling, 3 or 4 day weekend in Vegas is fine for me. My wife and I were in Vegas recently and one of the days we were there was basically: room service breakfast, to the spa @ Caesars for a 1hr massage + a couple hrs. chillin in the spa facilities, back to the room to get showered and dressed, found a cocktail bar for some pre-dinner whisky's, ate at a fantastic restaurant, post dinner whisky, played some roulette to close out the evening (and won $700 on a $20 bet!), back to room. I'd be more than happy to have more days like that one. I feel like you've gotta take advantage of at least some of the ridiculous over the top stuff in order to appreciate Vegas. Do things you wouldn't normally do at home. And finally, I haven't been the past couple trips, but I have been to a bachelor party or two in Vegas and I have to say that the strip clubs are operating on an entirely different plane from your typical American establishment. You should check one out, Scot. I always feel bad about expensing too much. It’s part of the joy of being me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, Fez said: What does seem to be totally gone are bars that sell loose cigarettes. Yeah for once I get to say I'm too young to remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mlle. Zabzie Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, DMC said: Yeah for once I get to say I'm too young to remember that. Lol, when my sister was a high school student in VA, the smoking age was 16, there was a smoking lounge set aside for juniors and seniors, and a cigarette vending machine at subsidized prices in that lounge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, Mlle. Zabzie said: Lol, when my sister was a high school student in VA, the smoking age was 16, there was a smoking lounge set aside for juniors and seniors, and a cigarette vending machine at subsidized prices in that lounge. I didn’t think you were older than me. I turn 48 next month. That or VA had some really loose smoking rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, Mlle. Zabzie said: Lol, when my sister was a high school student in VA, the smoking age was 16, there was a smoking lounge set aside for juniors and seniors, and a cigarette vending machine at subsidized prices in that lounge. Well, we certainly didn't have that growing up. But I remember right before I went to high school, so..1998-ish, all the kids would smoke openly right in front of the very good public high school I went to. They got rid of that rabble, even before 9/11, but the three security guards didn't care when I walked literally one foot over the school parking lot to the adjacent parking lot of the church next to it. Did it every morning, when I went. Then again, those security guards either didn't care or know that I had a grav bong waiting in a group of trees about 50 feet away from where I'm talking about that I'd stash there to get high. So maybe they weren't the best. Hell, that grav bong may still be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbigski Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I don't like 'having' to do anything as a general rule. Though since i spend a fair amount of my free time in casinos if I had to be somewhere for work, i could do a lot worse than Vegas. Scot, if you were doing the same work in Hartford, for example, would that be better or worse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, mcbigski said: I don't like 'having' to do anything as a general rule. Though since i spend a fair amount of my free time in casinos if I had to be somewhere for work, i could do a lot worse than Vegas. Scot, if you were doing the same work in Hartford, for example, would that be better or worse? I don’t gamble and really dislike smoking. Casinos, as a result, are among my least favorite places to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamjm Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 9 hours ago, Ran said: I had one visit there, and it was fine. It wasn't as horrible as I expected. The smokers were not enjoyable. The casino buffets (at the Rio, the Orleans, and I think something Station) I tried were actually good value for the price , given that they're basically loss leaders to get gamblers in the door and keep them there. It's basically Disney for adults, I guess. I went there for a work conference back in 2015 and I'd agree with this. It would probably have been fairly low down my list of famous American cities to visit, but I liked it more than I thought I would. It was fun wandering down the eccentricity of the Strip and all the ridiculous buildings (I think the volcano across from my hotel that exploded every half hour was probably the silliest), although I think once the novelty value had worn off there might not be all that much of interest so I probably wouldn't want to have to visit there regularly. It probably also helped that it was late November, I'm not sure I'd have enjoyed it in the summer. The biggest disadvantage of walking down the Strip is having to deal with all the people trying to sell you things. 9 hours ago, lady narcissa said: And its such a great base for seeing some fantastic nature. Red Rock Canyon is right there and easy to access. This time we drove out to Valley of Fire for the day which is a great day trip and very worth visiting. I think Vegas is one of those places where the best places to see are outside it. I went on a day trip to the Valley of Fire and I thought it was fascinating, a completely different landscape to anything I'd see in Europe. Again, it probably helped that it was November. I also took another trip to the Grand Canyon, although that's far enough way that it probably doesn't really count as being in the vicinity. 1 hour ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: I don’t gamble and really dislike smoking. Casinos, as a result, are among my least favorite places to be. There was something a bit depressing about walking through them. Those people sitting at the slot machines really don't look like they're enjoying themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Vegas is almost the perfect antithesis of what I enjoy on a vacation. My favorite part of going to Vegas was to go precisely one block away sideways from either the strip or the old casino area and see what the city looked like, and that was it looked like the mockups of the old west towns from Hollywood. Everything is artifice. Everything is unnatural. Everything is greed, and money, and exploitation, bombast and direct. Everything is crowded. What nature there is has been carefully shepherded, cordoned off and groomed to immaculate hygenic standards. The one good thing is that it's warm, which is nice when you're going there in, like, March and it's just snowed for the third time in Seattle. The flip side of that is that there are a whole lot of other places which are warm, and they don't suck quite so much. I really don't understand people who enjoy Vegas. I don't hugely understand the fanaticism of Disneyland either, but at least there are rides and nostalgia for childhood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted March 22, 2019 Author Share Posted March 22, 2019 20 minutes ago, williamjm said: I went there for a work conference back in 2015 and I'd agree with this. It would probably have been fairly low down my list of famous American cities to visit, but I liked it more than I thought I would. It was fun wandering down the eccentricity of the Strip and all the ridiculous buildings (I think the volcano across from my hotel that exploded every half hour was probably the silliest), although I think once the novelty value had worn off there might not be all that much of interest so I probably wouldn't want to have to visit there regularly. It probably also helped that it was late November, I'm not sure I'd have enjoyed it in the summer. The biggest disadvantage of walking down the Strip is having to deal with all the people trying to sell you things. I think Vegas is one of those places where the best places to see are outside it. I went on a day trip to the Valley of Fire and I thought it was fascinating, a completely different landscape to anything I'd see in Europe. Again, it probably helped that it was November. I also took another trip to the Grand Canyon, although that's far enough way that it probably doesn't really count as being in the vicinity. There was something a bit depressing about walking through them. Those people sitting at the slot machines really don't look like they're enjoying themselves. No argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: I don’t gamble and really dislike smoking. Casinos, as a result, are among my least favorite places to be. You must have at least one vice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted March 22, 2019 Author Share Posted March 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, Spockydog said: You must have at least one vice... I do drink. On rare occasions, to excess. I like Speculative Fiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A True Kaniggit Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Kalbear said: I really don't understand people who enjoy Vegas. I don't hugely understand the fanaticism of Disneyland either, but at least there are rides and nostalgia for childhood. If you like to gamble, and want to take a few days off to do only that, Vegas is very nice. Free hotel nights, most of your meals comped. Round-trip for me is <$200 since Vegas is popular with budget airlines. (plus taxi fare to and from airport) And to attract customers some of the casino's have tables going that are hard to find anywhere else. (as in two deck blackjack that pays x1.5 for blackjacks) Also there is always another hold 'em tournament only 1 hour away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 No, I get why a person would go to Vegas if they like that sort of thing. I just don't understand people who like that sort of thing. The kind of person who enjoys Vegas is about as hard for me to empathize with as the kind of person who enjoys listening to Trump. Maybe harder, even. I don't think that they're bad people, just people I don't get at a very basic level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, Kalbear said: No, I get why a person would go to Vegas if they like that sort of thing. I just don't understand people who like that sort of thing. The kind of person who enjoys Vegas is about as hard for me to empathize with as the kind of person who enjoys listening to Trump. Maybe harder, even. I don't think that they're bad people, just people I don't get at a very basic level. Oh fuck off with this haughty attitude. Vegas, and specifically the strip, is a fun place to go on vacation. In large part because most of the other people you meet are also on vacation, so it's a nice place to get drunk and hakuna matata. I'll give you that you have to wade through the annoying drunks, but I suppose I'm just really used to that. Anyway, same goes for Disneyworld (only been to Land a couple times very long ago). Living in Orlando for ~7 years, my brother and I had annual passes. Obviously it eventually grew tiresome. But the only reason that took 4-5 years is because of going around the world at Epcot and meeting random people. Tourist destinations are a fun way to interact, sorry if that's not good enough for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGimletEye Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: I do drink. On rare occasions, to excess. Sounds like the Dos Equis Guy. "I don't drink often. But, when I do, I prefer to get fucking trashed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted March 22, 2019 Author Share Posted March 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, OldGimletEye said: Sounds like the Dos Equis Guy. "I don't drink often. But, when I do, I prefer to get fucking trashed." Funny, but, that’s not what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGimletEye Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Funny, but, that’s not what I said. I know. I couldn't help to but to crack the joke. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Funny, but, that’s not what I said. "I drink fairly regularly. But on the rare occasions I do drink excessively, I prefer Dos Equis." Nah, don't have the same ring to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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