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4 minutes ago, Heartofice said:

Maybe if they thought they had been named after said KKK rather than by coincidence  they would have thought it was relevant 

Are you actually suggesting they didn't know? That they just randomly pulled the phrase out of Boris Johnson's arse? 

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26 minutes ago, Heartofice said:

Maybe if they thought they had been named after said KKK rather than by coincidence  they would have thought it was relevant 

Coincidence?

Really?

Even if true (hint, it isn't), it's never been an excuse before, so why should it be now?

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42 minutes ago, Spockydog said:

Are you actually suggesting they didn't know? That they just randomly pulled the phrase out of Boris Johnson's arse? 

Yes. Do you have any proof it wasn’t a coincidence?

it might be surprising to some but the inner workings of the KKK are not all that well known outside of the US. Go to southern Spain and you will see whole festivals of people dressed up in so called Klan outfits who have almost no awareness of the connection.

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1 hour ago, Spockydog said:

Bercow has ruled she cannot have a third vote. Epic stuff ahead. 

If she had enough votes to pass her deal she'd presumably have enough votes to change the rules so they could have another vote so I'm not sure it's that significant really.

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27 minutes ago, Heartofice said:

Yes. Do you have any proof it wasn’t a coincidence?

it might be surprising to some but the inner workings of the KKK are not all that well known outside of the US. Go to southern Spain and you will see whole festivals of people dressed up in so called Klan outfits who have almost no awareness of the connection.

Quite a few people at Semana Santa do know that it can mean a different thing in a different context, but anyway.

"Grand Wizard" is a strange title for someone to have. Unlike Klan outfits that had a religious origin, this seems kind of specific to them, and it's something far more unlikely for two political groups to independently come up with. But it's possible the ERG is just being as obtuse as possible.

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40 minutes ago, Heartofice said:

Yes. Do you have any proof it wasn’t a coincidence?

it might be surprising to some but the inner workings of the KKK are not all that well known outside of the US. Go to southern Spain and you will see whole festivals of people dressed up in so called Klan outfits who have almost no awareness of the connection.

Bullshit.

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14 minutes ago, Vaith said:

Quite a few people at Semana Santa do know that it can mean a different thing in a different context, but anyway.

"Grand Wizard" is a strange title for someone to have. Unlike Klan outfits that had a religious origin, this seems kind of specific to them, and it's something far more unlikely for two political groups to independently come up with. But it's possible the ERG is just being as obtuse as possible.

I’ve been to southern Spain many times and believe me many people I spoke to had very little idea why I found the outfits so shocking. 

The term ‘grand wizard’ is pretty obscure, I doubt many people are aware of it at all, especially in the Klan context. It does however absolutely fit into the sort of pompous boarding school educated types that think of these things.

 

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9 minutes ago, Heartofice said:

The term ‘grand wizard’ is pretty obscure, I doubt many people are aware of it at all, especially in the Klan context. It does however absolutely fit into the sort of pompous boarding school educated types that think of these things.

 

Unless Rees-Mogg secretly enjoys LARPing Harry Potter, there is no reason at all to use this title in a political context.

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2 minutes ago, Pebble said:

I see him more as Sauroman than Harry Potter.

Gove is a pretty decent Wormtongue

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1 hour ago, Heartofice said:

Yes. Do you have any proof it wasn’t a coincidence?

it might be surprising to some but the inner workings of the KKK are not all that well known outside of the US. Go to southern Spain and you will see whole festivals of people dressed up in so called Klan outfits who have almost no awareness of the connection.

When you say KKK, do you mean the Klu Klux Klan or the Krispe Kreme Kids? Without further evidence I cannot tell. Maybe you just randomly threw three letters together?

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4 minutes ago, James Arryn said:

 

it might be surprising to some but the inner workings of the KKK are not all that well known outside of the US. Go to southern Spain and you will see whole festivals of people dressed up in so called Klan outfits who have almost no awareness of the connection.



But this isn't some villages in southern Spain, and Grand Wizard isn't a traditional UK title for Brexiteers that outdates the KKK by probably centuries.

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1 hour ago, Heartofice said:

Yes. Do you have any proof it wasn’t a coincidence?

it might be surprising to some but the inner workings of the KKK are not all that well known outside of the US. Go to southern Spain and you will see whole festivals of people dressed up in so called Klan outfits who have almost no awareness of the connection.

I'm definitely not an expert on the subject by any means, but is it a normal thing for British political parties to name their leadership groups after superlative D&D classes?

I mean, even as someone barely initiated into UK politics, I'd imagine I would have heard of the Tory party's Outstanding Paladins, or Labour's Amazing Rangers, Lib Dem's Tubular Clerics or the SNP's Bad-Ass Rogues by now if that were the case.

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8 minutes ago, The Great Unwashed said:

the SNP's Bad-Ass Rogues



Well the SNP have bad-ass brogues, anyway.

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I can’t believe anyone who has seen JRM speak is surprised that he wouldn’t love thinking of himself and his group as some sort of bunch of Dumbledores in a crusty old wooden clad office. I am however not surprised that you jumped to the most conspiratorial conclusion that fits your preconceived notions of him as an arch villain / nazi.

You might all hate him, but he does have a sly sense of humour. 

Its at least better than referring to your self as the TIGers!

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