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12 minutes ago, Serious Callers Only said:

They're not nearly that restrained. They (the GOP and 'alt right' in control of this admin) want to murder you too.

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/ted-lieu-plays-candace-owens-hitler-comments-2019-4

 

 

Her response is quite laughable-as if there is any  question to which would ever somehow make her saying she doesn’t see a problem with Nationalism better. 

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Now, with top Trump administration officials indicating that they won’t honor a lawful demand for Trump’s tax returns, New York could play a pivotal role in putting Trump’s tax filings in the hands of Congress—and, potentially, bringing them into public view.

There are at least three possible ways that some or all of Trump’s tax filings might make it out of the Empire State and into the possession of congressional investigators. First, and most straightforwardly, the House Ways and Means Committee could subpoena Trump’s tax records from state officials. Second, New York state lawmakers could authorize the state tax commissioner to share Trump’s tax information with the House Ways and Means Committee. Third, state lawmakers could vote to release Trump’s tax filings to the public—potentially as part of a more comprehensive tax-transparency package—which, of course, would allow Ways and Means members to see them too.

 

How Democrats in Congress Could Easily—and Quickly—Get Their Hands on Trump’s Taxes

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/04/congress-steve-mnuchin-trump-taxes-mick-mulvaney.html

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Owens’ dismissal of the Statistics that show rising level of White nationalism really is infuriating as well as her dismissal of the entire hearing in general as being nothing but fear mongering to help Democrats when we have Wray, the FBI director appointed by Trump and confirmed by the republican senate, says that yes White nationalism is increasing to a frightening rate

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John Kerry: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Shows More Leadership Than Trump
The former secretary of state slammed the GOP’s inaction on climate change, praising the freshman congresswoman instead.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/john-kerry-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-green-new-deal_n_5cacd232e4b043f7925c2896

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Former Secretary of State John Kerry dismissed criticism of the Green New Deal, telling naysayers its proponent, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), had already shown more leadership on the matter than President Donald Trump.

Kerry delivered his rebuke of the GOP’s inaction on the environment to Rep. James Comer (R-K.Y.). Comer questioned whether there was a reasonable way for the U.S. to afford the ideas entailed in the resolution, which was introduced by Ocasio-Cortez and Sen. Ed Markey (D-Mass.) in February.

“There are a lot of different proposals about how to proceed,” Kerry said Tuesday during a House Oversight Committee hearing. “I don’t know that any of them are coming from your party or your side of the aisle.”

Kerry added that his “focus is on how we’re going to move forward” despite varying positions on legislation, adding that regardless of differences among politicians, “Ocasio-Cortez has in fact offered more leadership in one day or in one week than President Trump has in his lifetime on the subject.”

 

 

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4 hours ago, Varysblackfyre321 said:

Owens’ dismissal of the Statistics that show rising level of White nationalism really is infuriating as well as her dismissal of the entire hearing in general as being nothing but fear mongering to help Democrats when we have Wray, the FBI director appointed by Trump and confirmed by the republican senate, says that yes White nationalism is increasing to a frightening rate

She's the one who said Scientific American was not credible on climate change because its website is a .com and .coms are businesses with an agenda and can't be trusted to give us the truth.

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15 minutes ago, The Anti-Targ said:

She's the one who said Scientific American was not credible on climate change because its website is a .com and .coms are businesses with an agenda and can't be trusted to give us the truth.

Right-Wing think tanks funded with Koch cash and Exxon money are the only objective sources for information. 

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10 minutes ago, The Anti-Targ said:

because its website is a .com and .coms are businesses with an agenda and can't be trusted to give us the truth.

Ah, so that's why this site is so left leaning.  I didn't know it was simply because it is a .org.  Ran should just have a hammer and sickle background.

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16 minutes ago, DMC said:

Ah, so that's why this site is so left leaning.  I didn't know it was simply because it is a .org.  Ran should just have a hammer and sickle background.

.orgs are trustworthy, because they aren't trying to trick you into doing stuff so they can make a profit.

Something something, Warren Buffet, George Soros, billionnaires want socialism in the USA so they can be in control of everything.

She's basically like one of those pull chord talking toys that spouts some random right-wing talking point with each chord pull. She claims to have been a liberal until she discovered the truth. But the only truth she discovered is that she can get more profile and make more money by being one of those rare things: African American, female and conservative. She's not smart enough to gain any sort of prominence or standing as a progressive pundit. As a conservative pundit she doesn't need to be smart because she fills those two other far more important criteria to become prominent and successful.

I wonder how her Blexit is going?

 

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Ok, so I need help. One of my friends thinks Owens is great, and doesn't quite get why I consider her one of the worst human beings on the planet. He pointed me to that thing she did in front of the hearing as somehow proof of her being a star of the future and worth listening to. I thought what she said was mostly complete trash and she simply vomits out right wing talking points with zero knowledge (listen to her on Joe Rogan to understand why she simply has zero clue about anything, especially climate change, and doesn't bother to research before speaking) 

I have little awareness of these hearings and I haven't got the time to refute all the stuff she's saying, but if someone here could arm me with the ammo of where she is talking out of her arse that would be useful. Thanks. 

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4 hours ago, Varysblackfyre321 said:

Right-Wing think tanks funded with Koch cash and Exxon money are the only objective sources for information. 

You forgot to include the Murdoch media. 

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1 hour ago, Heartofice said:

Ok, so I need help. One of my friends thinks Owens is great, and doesn't quite get why I consider her one of the worst human beings on the planet. He pointed me to that thing she did in front of the hearing as somehow proof of her being a star of the future and worth listening to. I thought what she said was mostly complete trash and she simply vomits out right wing talking points with zero knowledge (listen to her on Joe Rogan to understand why she simply has zero clue about anything, especially climate change, and doesn't bother to research before speaking) 

I have little awareness of these hearings and I haven't got the time to refute all the stuff she's saying, but if someone here could arm me with the ammo of where she is talking out of her arse that would be useful. Thanks. 

 I’d simply ask your friend is Wray, a Trump appointment, who  lying or grossly exaggerating  about the level increase in White nationalism. If so why? A If not, then Owen’s proclaimation of such a hearing being needed is simply absurd.

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5 hours ago, Heartofice said:

Ok, so I need help. One of my friends thinks Owens is great, and doesn't quite get why I consider her one of the worst human beings on the planet. He pointed me to that thing she did in front of the hearing as somehow proof of her being a star of the future and worth listening to. I thought what she said was mostly complete trash and she simply vomits out right wing talking points with zero knowledge (listen to her on Joe Rogan to understand why she simply has zero clue about anything, especially climate change, and doesn't bother to research before speaking) 

I have little awareness of these hearings and I haven't got the time to refute all the stuff she's saying, but if someone here could arm me with the ammo of where she is talking out of her arse that would be useful. Thanks. 

If your friend is a climate change denier, they are likely beyond reasoning with however armed with evidence you might be. If your friend accepts climate change as well evidenced and true, then one cannot listen to her talking about climate change and not come to the conclusion she's a vapid right-wing talking points bot, without an original thought in her head.

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I've lost a bit track of US politics, due to the ongoing Brexit comedy routine - more entertaining than Twitler, funnier, with a non-disastrous outcome on the horizon. But wasn't Hermain Cain that Republican predator (kinda redundant) joke candidate from a few years ago with the Pizza chain?

Under which rock have they found him?

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3 hours ago, A Horse Named Stranger said:

I've lost a bit track of US politics, due to the ongoing Brexit comedy routine - more entertaining than Twitler, funnier, with a non-disastrous outcome on the horizon. But wasn't Hermain Cain that Republican predator (kinda redundant) joke candidate from a few years ago with the Pizza chain?

Under which rock have they found him?

I thought Herman Cain was the "the rent is too damn high" guy.

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https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/04/dhs-fbi-say-election-systems-in-50-states-were-targeted-in-2016/?comments=1

 

Seems like the ongoing purge and planned purge tribunals are not being appreciated by some milquetoast 'boyscout' FBI functionaries.  Man who could have realized that the GOP were the party of treason all along right FBI? Maybe try being a little less conservative next incarnation, if you have one not named some variant of gestapo.

 

Ah, i'm sure that the new director 'Erik Prince' will sort it out eventually.

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