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I just became aware of that microchipping pets from a Scandinavian tv series. They had a murder victim whose pet (that refused to leave the victims side) had the chip implanted and it helped them quickly figure out who the victim was.

Who does this pet own kind of thing I guess lol.

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So, at the restaurant I started going, I often see one cat. Today there were three cats. I felt at unease seeing two of the cats just staring at me so I gave them piece of fried fish, and then realizing there are three cats. I felt bad at giving them fried fish, so I gave them small piece an then I see another cat, and it just brakes my heart seeing them being on street.

So, did I do wrong? Should I just stop giving them food or going there? I admit last two times I gave one cat generous amounts of cooked lamb, so three cats there is definitely a sign I should stop, but I have soft spot for feeding animals.

 

fried fish was with breadcrumbs

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Not poisonous, but probably not the most healthy thing you can give them. However -- if there was a lot of garlic or onions in the recipe, that's not great. Alliums (garlic, onions, shallots, etc) are poisonous to cats, although it takes more than trace amounts of it. I found one reference that mentions that, in cats, at least 5g allium per kilogram of body weight as the threshold for poisoning, and usually much higher. 

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2 hours ago, Xray the Enforcer said:

Not poisonous, but probably not the most healthy thing you can give them. However -- if there was a lot of garlic or onions in the recipe, that's not great. Alliums (garlic, onions, shallots, etc) are poisonous to cats, although it takes more than trace amounts of it. I found one reference that mentions that, in cats, at least 5g allium per kilogram of body weight as the threshold for poisoning, and usually much higher. 

 

oh, there probably were not onions or similar in fish. thank you.

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1 hour ago, Lady Winter Rose said:

oh, there probably were not onions or similar in fish. thank you.

They would be in the breadcrumbs, if there were any. Sometimes, when I’m preparing a breading, I use some chopped garlic. It’s not a lot, though.

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2 hours ago, Fury Resurrected said:

It should be fine and better than whatever they’re getting on the street. Poor babies

Unless they’re in old town Istanbul. The kabob vendors throw the leftovers to the street cats at the end of the day. And there are public cat shelters - not like “animal shelters” in the US, but many little houses for street cats, built for about 10 cats at a time - in Istanbul, as well as many, many people and businesses that put out cat food or milk for the street cats. Even the Four Seasons, not like local hotels or 3 star.

I visited Hagia Sophia (a Mosque that was converted to a Christian Orthodox Church, converted to a museum), and there was a *Turkish armed guard presence* and a *velvet rope* condoning off...not priceless artifacts, but a mother cat and her litter of kittens. There were fewer armed guards at Topkapi palace around the former emperor’s literal *basket full of emeralds*. 

Apparently, cats are very well taken care of in Islamic cultures. A cat once sat on the Prophet’s robe, and when the call to prayer came, he cut off his robe rather than disturb the sleeping cat. It is also tradition in Islam that whoever harms a cat must build a mosque, which is like building a cathedral. 

This is also why when some dude shot AT a feral cat (didn’t actually shoot it) in Dubai for running all over his sports car and leaving paw prints, he got serious death threats from random people and had to leave the country. (As well he should have).

Now, to be a street dog in the Middle East? Totally different story.

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5 hours ago, Chataya de Fleury said:

Unless they’re in old town Istanbul. The kabob vendors throw the leftovers to the street cats at the end of the day. And there are public cat shelters - not like “animal shelters” in the US, but many little houses for street cats, built for about 10 cats at a time - in Istanbul, as well as many, many people and businesses that put out cat food or milk for the street cats. Even the Four Seasons, not like local hotels or 3 star.

I visited Hagia Sophia (a Mosque that was converted to a Christian Orthodox Church, converted to a museum), and there was a *Turkish armed guard presence* and a *velvet rope* condoning off...not priceless artifacts, but a mother cat and her litter of kittens. There were fewer armed guards at Topkapi palace around the former emperor’s literal *basket full of emeralds*. 

Apparently, cats are very well taken care of in Islamic cultures. A cat once sat on the Prophet’s robe, and when the call to prayer came, he cut off his robe rather than disturb the sleeping cat. It is also tradition in Islam that whoever harms a cat must build a mosque, which is like building a cathedral. 

This is also why when some dude shot AT a feral cat (didn’t actually shoot it) in Dubai for running all over his sports car and leaving paw prints, he got serious death threats from random people and had to leave the country. (As well he should have).

Now, to be a street dog in the Middle East? Totally different story.

This is *almost* enough reverence for cats

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I sympathize with the Prophet.  More than once I have needed to get up and go about my day but, "Can't....move...kitty...on...stomach."

In the broader sense of feeding strays:

It is a kind act to offer food to a stray cat.  I would never discourage that.  The next step of compassion and love is to offer spay/neuter surgery to reduce the population.  Stray, unsterilized cats have large numbers of kittens and most of them die young.

Even through a well funded and well regulated shelter I have seen too damn many kittens die.

Cats don't have to live with people but people who care for cats should help them by preventing overpopulation.  OK, yes, I sound like Bob Barker.  I'm OK with that.

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On 4/3/2021 at 12:27 AM, Chataya de Fleury said:

I visited Hagia Sophia (a Mosque that was converted to a Christian Orthodox Church, converted to a museum), and there was a *Turkish armed guard presence* and a *velvet rope* condoning off...not priceless artifacts, but a mother cat and her litter of kittens. There were fewer armed guards at Topkapi palace around the former emperor’s literal *basket full of emeralds*. 

You got your history a bit backwards there.

It was a Christian (Orthodox) Church, that was converted to a Mosque after the city was conquered by the Turks/Ottoman empire. Ataturk (founder of modern day Turkey) just turned it into a museum. Erdogan current Turkish strongman and religious nutjob, has reconverted it into a mosque (despite a lot of protests) rather recently, not sure whether it was in 2019 or in 2020.

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I have an old cat that was always active and an outdoor cat but we have been keeping her in at night since she had some kind of incident one night. She wasn't hurt but clearly something had frightened and exhausted her. Anyway, last night she got out for a couple of hours early on because I forgot to close everything, came in looking very alert and excited for a bit of food and rest, then acted so keen I broke the rules and let her out again. I noticed what an amazing full moon it was and that it was perfectly still and not that cold. Anyway, today I read it was what is called a supermoon and is supposed to look pinkish or red. The cat certainly thought it was a super moon. Of all the nights in about a year of staying in she managed to persuade me that that night was something special.

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I am currently hosting 3 foster kitties--mom +2 kittens.  The kittens were born here and are currently 7 weeks old.

Mom is In Heat.  I wish I could soothe her without giving her some P.  She is getting surgery next week to alleviate her suffering but for the next 5 days she is all mine.

All I can think is "please God, let me not have ever been so nakedly needy and horny as she is right now."

Mom is a kitty cat 10/10.  No cat could be more perfect, playful, affectionate, neat, and considerate.  But Damn!  I am embarrassed for her.

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3 hours ago, litechick said:

 

Mom is In Heat.  I wish I could soothe her without giving her some P.  She is getting surgery next week to alleviate her suffering but for the next 5 days she is all mine.

All I can think is "please God, let me not have ever been so nakedly needy and horny as she is right now."

Its keeping them locked up that makes it unbearable. I have often thought the same that I couldn't bear to be so totally possessed by a set of hormones.

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4 hours ago, Castellan said:

Its keeping them locked up that makes it unbearable. I have often thought the same that I couldn't bear to be so totally possessed by a set of hormones.

Well, “keeping her locked up” is what’s keeping the cycle of unwanted kittens from starting with her again- which leads to countless unnecessary deaths of cats on the streets and in shelters. She and her kittens are already in the system, lite is doing exactly the right thing.

 

@litechick I’m so glad you’re fostering! Kittens at that age are so fun and so terrible

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1 hour ago, Fury Resurrected said:

Well, “keeping her locked up” is what’s keeping the cycle of unwanted kittens from starting with her again- which leads to countless unnecessary deaths of cats on the streets and in shelters. She and her kittens are already in the system, lite is doing exactly the right thing.

 

@litechick I’m so glad you’re fostering! Kittens at that age are so fun and so terrible

Our baby Katara had a couple of cycles before we were able to get her in for her appointment.  (She was precociously early).  She wandered around the house, and it sounded exactly like she was saying “hello Romeo”.  We felt for her, but it was also a little funny.  She still says “hello” when she is feeling “lost”.

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