Denam_Pavel Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 So was there ever a point in history when Warden of the East was not just a utterly meaningless ceremonial hereditary title for House Arryn? House Stark as Warden of North exersizes military autonomy to fight of wildling invasions, the Warden of the West needs it for ironborn primarily. It make sense that the Warden of the South was hereditary to House Tyrell as Dorne came way later and for the first century and then some, the Dornish were the major southern threat, But why did Visenya and Aegon give House Arryn the military command of the east? It basically always fell to House Velaryon or the Prince of Dragonstone or the Hand of the King of the King himself in King's Landing to deal with it. The Lord of the Eyrie already has the title Defender of the Vale. Maybe during Daeron's invasion of Dorne and the first Blackfyre Rebellion there was a Lord Arryn worth his salt but it's starting to look like Jon Arryn alone gave the title any meaning. Ned and Robert's conversation on the subject doesn't hold water for me anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loge Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 12 hours ago, Denam_Pavel said: So was there ever a point in history when Warden of the East was not just a utterly meaningless ceremonial hereditary title for House Arryn? House Stark as Warden of North exersizes military autonomy to fight of wildling invasions, the Warden of the West needs it for ironborn primarily. It make sense that the Warden of the South was hereditary to House Tyrell as Dorne came way later and for the first century and then some, the Dornish were the major southern threat, But why did Visenya and Aegon give House Arryn the military command of the east? It basically always fell to House Velaryon or the Prince of Dragonstone or the Hand of the King of the King himself in King's Landing to deal with it. The Lord of the Eyrie already has the title Defender of the Vale. Maybe during Daeron's invasion of Dorne and the first Blackfyre Rebellion there was a Lord Arryn worth his salt but it's starting to look like Jon Arryn alone gave the title any meaning. Ned and Robert's conversation on the subject doesn't hold water for me anymore. The Vale has its own wildlings to fight, the mountain clans. I don't remember, but there are probably pirate raids, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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