Every Last Chicken Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mystical said: The only problem I have with this scenario is that Dany is looking up at someone. She doesn't look to be sitting down and even then she and Tyrion would be the same height. That's a good catch. I noticed that they spliced the scene in right as she says "Cersei" and not before, so she might be saying the name Cersei in that scene in an entirely different context, with the "You never should have trusted Cersei" being dubbed over for dramatic effect. I think the showrunners just want us to think there's going to be a bunch more drama between the women whereas it probably won't amount to anything when the episode airs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Queen Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 18 hours ago, divica said: I don t think a legal explanation about why jon is true born is that interesting or important for the show. And given the stupidity of naming jon Aegon I don t think they care about his murdered siblings. However a better explanation about what really happened is needed for both jon and us… I mean, why did people think lyanna was abducted? why didn t rhaegar and lyanna tell the truth? And those litle things every book reader has wanted to know for years! Maybe we will get flashbacks of rhaegar and lyanna's romance through bran next ep while he tells the story to jon (and danny?)... Because Robert's ego refused to believe that she didn't love him. I think Ned knew the truth, but went along with it because he loved his sister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodsteel bitterraven Posted April 16, 2019 Author Share Posted April 16, 2019 20 hours ago, Pandean said: Wait hold up. Sansa was a child who was raised naive and sheltered and told by her mother and her Septa that her duty was to obey her husband, get married, and have babies. She believed in songs being true and fairy tales and all that shit. She definitely doesn't believe that any more. She was a dumb, sheltered, spoiled kid. So, in many ways, was Arya, Bran, etc. That's normal. That's natural. But she's grown considerably since then. Actions she did when she was a dumb naive little kid doesn't mean she's not smart now and they don't discredit her. Like shit when I was a kid Sansa's age in the first season I had pants with all the Twilight characters names written on them that I'd wear everywhere, including church, was part of this emo cliche that called itself a murder and walked in a v formation, spoke in random Japanese due to anime, and hissed at sunlight. Thank fucking GOD no one is still holding the dumb shit I did as a kid against me. Also, that never happened on the show. But regardless of whether it happened or not, Sansa has come a long way as a character since season 1, and anyone who refuses to see it, is lying to him/herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 On 4/15/2019 at 10:02 AM, D2procon said: I'm calling it now. Jaime starts to tell the Kingslayer story and everyone doubts him. Bran then steps in and confirms his story I don't think that's going to happen. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Do'urdan Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 On 04/15/2019 at 11:46 AM, House Cambodia said: Jorah really ought to be wielding Longclaw, his father's sword. Jon should pass it on as he receives Oathkeeper off Brianne as that's from Ice. Didn't he try last year and Jorah said he was unworthy of Longclaw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandean Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 22 minutes ago, bloodsteel bitterraven said: Also, that never happened on the show. But regardless of whether it happened or not, Sansa has come a long way as a character since season 1, and anyone who refuses to see it, is lying to him/herself. Yeah, exactly. She's got some of the ebst character development in the entire show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balazs Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 "-How long do we have? - Before the sun comes up tomorrow." So the Night King will arrive really quickly and I think Jamie's life will be spared, and Jon will not talk about his origins for the same reason: they need everyone who can fight, and, on the other hand, Jon cannot be sure about the reaction of his northern allies if they find out that he is a Targaryan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L’Age d’or Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 The only reason for the Jaime dress down scene in public is so that the show can glorify Dany again, it's been a while since she gave us one of those speeches the writers love to give her to recite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euron III Greyjoy Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 I do feel like Daenerys is kind of in a loose-loose situation here. If she wants to kill Jaime then people will start calling her the Mad Queen, and if she pardons him it will just give the Northerners another excuse to dislike her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Cambodia Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 53 minutes ago, Euron III Greyjoy said: I do feel like Daenerys is kind of in a loose-loose situation here. If she wants to kill Jaime then people will start calling her the Mad Queen, and if she pardons him it will just give the Northerners another excuse to dislike her. She can do a 'King David' and put Jamie in the vanguard of the next assault on the WWs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradam Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 26 minutes ago, House Cambodia said: She can do a 'King David' and put Jamie in the vanguard of the next assault on the WWs. from the preview thats what it looked like happened to me. Jamie is right in the middle of the main fight against the whitewalkers invading winterfell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st Century Moose Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 "When I was a child my brother would tell me bedtime stories about the man who killed our father, and all the things we would do to that man..." To me this sounds like a summing-up rather than a beginning; I'd lay odds that it's followed by "but my brother was an idiot", or words to that effect. She's already described him as "cruel, stupid and weak" in a prior episode, so it seems obvious that a story about him is going to be along similar lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Yorick Ampersand Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Jaime would make a great Hand of the Queen. GOLDENHAND THE JUST please let it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyser1 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Let's see some of those Bronze Yohn sword skills and say goodbye to Lyanna Mormont. How about some MANDERLY MAYHEM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonoNono Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Note that Jon doesn’t have his breastplate which he usually always wears. I think he gives up his title in ep2, so Sansa becomes lady of Winterfell and refuses to bend the knee. Dany takes Drogon and rides back to Dragonstone, leaving her army for Jon to command along with Rhaegal. Jon goes to see her or with her at DS before returning to WF for the fight, but Dany and Drogon stay out of it. I imagine she would return after they flee south to help them. She has to earn their loyalty, and that would fit with her dream in the books where she burns what seems to be WWs while riding Drogon over the Trident. Probably in ep4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jon Snow Stark Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 27 minutes ago, NonoNono said: Note that Jon doesn’t have his breastplate which he usually always wears. I think he gives up his title in ep2, so Sansa becomes lady of Winterfell and refuses to bend the knee. Dany takes Drogon and rides back to Dragonstone, leaving her army for Jon to command along with Rhaegal. Jon goes to see her or with her at DS before returning to WF for the fight, but Dany and Drogon stay out of it. I imagine she would return after they flee south to help them. She has to earn their loyalty, and that would fit with her dream in the books where she burns what seems to be WWs while riding Drogon over the Trident. Probably in ep4. Sansa is already Lady of Winterfell. Currently Jon is Warden of the North. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonoNono Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, King Jon Snow Stark said: Sansa is already Lady of Winterfell. Currently Jon is Warden of the North. I meant Warden of the North/Queen in the north Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jon Snow Stark Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, NonoNono said: I meant Warden of the North/Queen in the north Did you see the EW pictures? It looks like he’s wearing an outfit similar to Arya. He’s still dressed like a Stark. I think he’s going to stay Warden. Warden is a military title, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhaegoTheUnborn Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 On 4/16/2019 at 3:34 PM, House Do'urdan said: Didn't he try last year and Jorah said he was unworthy of Longclaw? Yup. Jorah wouldnt take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhaegoTheUnborn Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, King Jon Snow Stark said: Did you see the EW pictures? It looks like he’s wearing an outfit similar to Arya. He’s still dressed like a Stark. I think he’s going to stay Warden. Warden is a military title, right? You mean like the real military in Real Life? As far as US goes theres no such title as warden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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