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5 hours ago, OldGimletEye said:

I feel like I should be watching the show with a set of beer googles on, then it might be palatable.

Why aren't you? I bought six bottles of scotch last month as a prophylactic. I assure you, I am well inoculated tonight (and will be all remaining subsequent Sundays).

They had better not have brought Jaime all the way north only to knight Brienne and then kill him off next week. That's not good enough for me. He's my favourite, and probably putting in the best acting performances as well.

I don't see Arya as a sexual person (and it has nothing to with her age or appearance). I assume some people think everybody must be, and so she has been written this way. Oh well.

Nice Ghost cameo. I assume that's just to shut the whingers up. Somebody could have petted him at least.

I empathized with Missandei in her no-place-like-home scene. I suppose I don't want any of these characters to be killed off (except Dany, and that's not her fault, I just find it way too conservative to have the story end with the restoration of the ancien regime), but I can't help thinking this story could have been told better. It's just not good enough. Too by the numbers.

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The discussion between Deadpan and Sandra was so anachronistic. Granted, those exchanges would have been apt if the events were happening at least during the colonial era. And I don't think Sandra is holding that much power. She is getting it because others let her have it (like the Mormont girl). Dany on the other hand holds actual power.

 

Jon-Dany scene in the crypt felt totally artificial. He drops the bomb and her concern was losing the IT. She did not ask for credible evidence. Jon should have Sam and Bran with him when he dropped this bomb. Also he should have first discussed it with Bran.

Arya-Gendry scene was totally out of place. The build-up almost looked like one from a cheap porn scene.

 

I think NCW is the  best actor left in the show now. He is able to show many emotions without any words.

 

Edited by athmystikal

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2 hours ago, Simon Tam said:

 

5) Contemporary ethnical problems imposed on a medieval fantasy world

 

Ugh god I forgot about this. They really went there. Ugh.

 

Two things I'm confused about:

1- Since when Sam is such a brave warrior? Yes he HAD TO kill two WW...but that really turned him into someone that would want to participate in a major battle against zombies? That felt really off for me.

2- Since when Sam is so sentimental about his family? Didn't his father hate him, threatened him with death if he didn't join the NW? Naturally his reaction about this family'death should not be what we saw. He's acting as if he loved his father dearly when he had an awful relationship with his family.

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4 hours ago, Corvinus said:

Btw, anyone notice the obsidian pieces planted on top of the wall crenelations? Looked like they used frozen snow to stick them there. :laugh:Guys, whatever you do, don't place torches right by the crenelations.

I wondered about that, too. Thing I'm wondering as well though is how effective is obsidian against the wights? It's meant to be pretty fragile. Yes, it killed the Other when Sam used it, but it shattered when he struck Small Paul's chainmail. Then again, the wights aren't exactly hard to kill in the show. In the books, they're slow, relentless and bloody hard to kill. Slash them with a sword, they keep coming. Fills them with arrows, they don't deter. In the show, give them a bitch-slap and they fall down dead. 

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26 minutes ago, Nami said:

Ugh god I forgot about this. They really went there. Ugh.

 

Two things I'm confused about:

1- Since when Sam is such a brave warrior? Yes he HAD TO kill two WW...but that really turned him into someone that would want to participate in a major battle against zombies? That felt really off for me.

2- Since when Sam is so sentimental about his family? Didn't his father hate him, threatened him with death if he didn't join the NW? Naturally his reaction about this family'death should not be what we saw. He's acting as if he loved his father dearly when he had an awful relationship with his family.

Show Sam is so weird. He's lost all of his self-loathing, anxiety, low self-esteem. He's been kicking about bragging about his military accomplishments and now seems eager to fight. It just feels wrong. The Fist of the First Men was borderline traumatizing to Sam, to anyone, and the fleeing with the Others picking them off one-by-one. It doesn't seem at all the experience that would make one a hardened warrior, but rather reinforce battle terror. 

Heck, in the show he wasn't even on the fist. He sat cowering behind a rock. The Others were like "sup" and strolled by him. It made no sense and has never been addressed. 

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29 minutes ago, Ser Drewy said:

Is it me or are they really borrowing hard from Peter Jackson's Helm's Deep this episode?

Not just you. But I've seen plenty of siege movies, and they're all pretty much like this. 

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Brienne being knighted must be a lovely moment for her, but it is rather at odds with the motif that it is those who are not Knights who best uphold the knightly oaths - Brienne, Sandor, Dunk, etc.

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I don't think i've ever participated in one of these threads, but enough is enough.
 
Seriously the Stark children are apart for so long, yet in their last night they all go about their business?

Also Jon's reveal to Dany was so poorly done, just to create pointless drama. It has been established in Jon's character arc so far that:

- He doesn't want to be king of anything.
- He makes decisions always for the greater good.

Jon would know at this point, that telling Dany the truth with a long pause like he is some kind of Drama student, would accomplish nothing. Why would he unsettle his biggest asset just before a fight?

The only thing that i really liked was Theon + Brianne getting knighted, rest was telenovela levels of story telling.

 

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The song about Jenny of Oldstones resembles the Winterfell theme we’ve heard through the seasons.. chills:crying:

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5 hours ago, teej6 said:

Why doesn't anyone ask Bran what he is or what the 3ER means? I suppose it’s because it’s a spoiler for the ending but it’s strange that everyone simply accepts his “I’m not Brandon Stark anymore” or “i’m the 3ER” and isn’t a bit curious. Oh I just recalled, Tyrion had an offscreen chat with Bran about the mystery that is Bran.

It’s so odd... the important and relevant things happen off screen. On screen all we get is filler, mind-numbing dialogue, and characters staring at each other. Is it supposed to increase the tension/suspense? Is it just bad writing? A combo of both? Whatever it is, it ain’t working. All I’m feeling is annoyance and boredom.

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My ongoing disappointments:

1.  Jon's apparent indifference to Ghost (and Ghost's absence from the show from Jon's resurrection until now)

2.  No mention of Howland Reed as the one person who can verify Jon's true parentage

3.  No mention of the slaughter of the Freys either in Winterfell or at KL.  I would especially like to see a big reveal that Arya did it.

4.  Where is Robert/Sweet Robin?  Why didn't he come north with the knights of the Vale?

5.  Where is Edmure and the rest of the Tullys?

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3 minutes ago, kissdbyfire said:

It’s so odd... the important and relevant things happen off screen. On screen all we get is filler, mind-numbing dialogue, and characters staring at each other. Is it supposed to increase the tension/suspense? Is it just bad writing? A combo of both? Whatever it is, it ain’t working. All I’m feeling is annoyance and boredom.

I love how we've gotten zero scenes about Bran's supposed connection with the Night King. He just exposits it now around the table. We never see him learn any of this stuff, never see him react emotionally to it. It's so odd. I love that The Others seem to have no purpose other than "death!" and that they really need to kill Bran because he remembers stuff. I mean, if they eradicate the population, the human world is already dead. Some guy sitting seeing the past isn't really that essential, is it? I have no idea why Bran is so important to him at all. 

Also  I really want Lyanna Mormont to die. She is so goddamn cringe. Why the hell is a 10 year old child leading about on her own without advisors? Why would she seriously think anyone would let child fight?  Why is that just a repeat of another scene with some random little girl who wants to fight? Why do half the cast feel utterly, utterly pointless now? It's so obvious many of them are just being set-up to die now because they've got no purpose in the show whatsoever now. I hate Show Arya as well. Every scene with her dour face is beyond boring. They've cut anything interesting about her character. 

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19 minutes ago, Ser Drewy said:

I love how we've gotten zero scenes about Bran's supposed connection with the Night King. He just exposits it now around the table. We never see him learn any of this stuff, never see him react emotionally to it. It's so odd. I love that The Others seem to have no purpose other than "death!" and that they really need to kill Bran because he remembers stuff. I mean, if they eradicate the population, the human world is already dead. Some guy sitting seeing the past isn't really that essential, is it? I have no idea why Bran is so important to him at all. 

I wondered about the same. It's all about Bran now, he says. He could even be on the dark side helping Night King take over, that's why he so carefully tells about stuff to come.

He tells Jaime, he's not angry at anyone. It could be because with Night King he gets the "revenge". Most likely I'm wrong and Bran is with the good.

EDIT: that was a bit silly, I rewatched the scene. The Night king wants to erase them all and Bran is their memory, he needs to be destroyed.

Edited by Deminelle

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I had to reboot my rant account after tonight (last week meh, this week just cringe).

The Dany/Sansa bonding scene - Dany makes it seem like the Lannisters were the cause of the Targs losing the throne and not Robert and... Sansa father.

How can her a Viserys talk about everything they will do to Jamie and never about what they would do to Robert or his most loyal friend Eddard Stark? The Starks are just as complicit to what happened to the Targs as the Lannisters or the Baratheons.

Arya sex - I just had to look away.

They mention Brienne's fighting skills, how about mentioning she kicked Loras' ass?

Can we please swap swords, give longclaw back to Jorah - as Jeor wanted - who cares what Jorah thinks and have Jon take Heartsbane.

And yes Lyanna got old a season ago.

As previous posters have mentioned there is no plot advancement, we as the audience get our last lol/meme moments before they action begins.

I said to my housemate (who loves the series and the points we rant about are great) I bet the next episode is at KL... even after watching next week's preview I still think it will be KL

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4 hours ago, Deminelle said:

Anyway, this must be the only show on tv where there are no gay relationships introduced.

 

I know it’s been a while, but Renly was a pretty big character in a gay relationship. 

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Just now, Greenmonsterff said:

I know it’s been a while, but Renly was a pretty big character in a gay relationship. 

Completely forgot about that. Have to take my words back.

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6 hours ago, Gelious said:

P.S. Please tell me they are not going to actually finish NK next episode. As much as I adore seeing Lena Headey on screen playing anyone, making Cersei the final baddie of the show seems really lame.

 

 

If the Night King and Wights are knocked out in episode three, this whole show will have been a lie. From the opening scene onward, they have been the impending dread. They have to be the final “boss.”

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