Fox Mulder Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 George RR. Martin fucked up. The Long Night my ass. If this is even close to the last book what a waste. Remember Jon wasn't even at Hardhome in the books. This is a dud of a plot. As to the show, it was a fantastic episode but if this is really what is going to happen in the books its a disappointment. Long Night is a joke. I think this is one reason why he will extend the series book wise otherwise the whitewalker plot is almost a joke. I loved the episode but that was because the series made the whitewalkers a big deal with main characters over multiple episodes but book-wise it's just going to be a letdown. I am fine with Arya killing the Night King in the show but in the books with her age and the buildup, it will be a letdown. Then again according to the show and the emphasis the books place on the world building if we have the same ending it will be a letdown regardless, the Northern Conspiracy for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon_Tor Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 If you watch the "inside the episode" bit at the end, the showrunners say "we've known for three years that Arya would be the one to kill the night king." And what that means is, they DIDNT know that before three years ago. In other words, Arya killing him was not a part of whatever ending guidance GRRM gave to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nami Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 I refuse to believe Arya is the one who's gonna kill the NK in the books. All the foreshadowing, prophecy and shit has no meaning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Shiznit Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Newsflash: You're not getting a book ending, you'll be lucky if Winds of Winter comes out at all, let alone a book that ends the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Varys Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 What? You guys don't believe that a 12-year-old is going to kill a creature that doesn't even exist in the books?! Your bad! Of course Arya is going to defeat the Others. Who else could do that ;-). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nami Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said: Newsflash: You're not getting a book ending, you'll be lucky if Winds of Winter comes out at all, let alone a book that ends the story. even if GRRM dies someone is going to release a book with the ending you think they're going to refuse the money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Shiznit Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Nami said: even if GRRM dies someone is going to release a book with the ending you think they're going to refuse the money? Do "they" even have a say in that matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Mulder Posted April 29, 2019 Author Share Posted April 29, 2019 I don't have a vendetta against the show but if this is how the books go down what a letdown. Prophecies are bullshit and the whole long night is a joke. How long really is a night? Compared to the age of heroes our long night is a joke. I am sorry but at this point, the book prophecies and foreshadowing are trolling. The show does a much better job even though it has a fraction of the complexity. Also, I have read many fanfictions that make a lot more sense when using the book as clues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Mulder Posted April 29, 2019 Author Share Posted April 29, 2019 Also yeah yeah we can never get the books but that fact literally doesn't help anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Godric Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 38 minutes ago, Damon_Tor said: If you watch the "inside the episode" bit at the end, the showrunners say "we've known for three years that Arya would be the one to kill the night king." And what that means is, they DIDNT know that before three years ago. In other words, Arya killing him was not a part of whatever ending guidance GRRM gave to them. There is no Night King in the books, so of course not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Mulder Posted April 29, 2019 Author Share Posted April 29, 2019 Also if this is how the books go everyone south of the neck can deny the whitewalkers ever existed. I never thought that is how the war of the LONGnight would go. I thought everyone would be touched. Ramsey was almost a bigger threat. Cersei was also completely right. Threat wise Cersei>whitewalkers barf!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Mulder Posted April 29, 2019 Author Share Posted April 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, Lord Godric said: There is no Night King in the books, so of course not. There better not be or anything equivalent We are reaching a point here where JK Rowling > GRRM which is crazy even though I like Harry Potter. \. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Mulder Posted April 29, 2019 Author Share Posted April 29, 2019 Also what is the purpose of Bran you could have cut him out and had the NK going after Dany or Jon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darmody Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 12 minutes ago, Fox Mulder said: Also what is the purpose of Bran you could have cut him out and had the NK going after Dany or Jon. Without Bran, how would we know Theon is good boy? Also, how would the world-saving dagger have passed from Littlest Finger to Supergirl, I mean Arya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Knight of Flours Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Don't worry guys - in three weeks the show will be over and you will only have to come here to whine about how long the next book is taking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longest night Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Nami said: even if GRRM dies someone is going to release a book with the ending you think they're going to refuse the money? He said he left instructions to have all his book notes burned upon his death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoo Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Cersei vs Sansa showdown, three episodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Mulder Posted April 29, 2019 Author Share Posted April 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, The Knight of Flours said: Don't worry guys - in three weeks the show will be over and you will only have to come here to whine about how long the next book is taking. I already said the show did a good job at least we have Hadrhome Dand D actually built up the threat of the WW. But if this is reflective of the books then they are a letdown. I am actually not whinging about the show, but complimenting it mostly although I have a few objections like Bran being worthless overall. They could have replaced him with something else like jon or dany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigger Warning Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 I'm firmly in the camp that the series will never be finished anyway so I can blissfully imagine the entire world covered in snow with the leader of the Others (if it is the Night's King) perched on a frozen throne atop the frozen spire of the Hightower in oldtown a la the Lich King. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodor the Articulate Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Why are you getting upset at something that hasn't happened, and isn't even likely to happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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