Kajjo Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 WIGHT Viserion's death scene finally cleared up without doubt that Viserion was a simple wight and not sort of a White Walker. There have been some discussions here, but I was always convinced that dead beings can only brought back as wight by the Nightking. So we saw White Walker shatter to icy shards, but we see wight crumble to body parts. Viserion crumbles to bones, too. He was without doubt a simple wight, under the control of the Nightking. So no weird theories needed about the Nightking having targaryen blood or being a dragon rider in the narrower sense of the word. The Nightking could simply control the wight dragon. I like this clear resolution very much. CGI While I was no so amazed by the dragon CGI this time in general, I really appreciate the "dying Viserion" scene. The blue fire coming out of his torn body, neck and head was great, his facing of with Jon was epic. Here the CGI really was top. QUESTION What do you think intended Jon to do in the moment of Viserion's death? Just a suicide stand-off in hopelessness? Why did he raise himself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinscS2 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 While it was pretty hard to see what dragon was which mid-fight, it was pretty cool to see the "brothers" Viserion and Rhaegal duke it out, only to have Drogon dive-bomb Viserion into smithereens. As for Jon, I think he wen't "fuck it, I'm done". ...or maybe he wanted to see if he's fireproof as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenmonsterff Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 I was disappointed that Dany didn’t kill Viserion. It could have been a real moment, her having to kill her undead child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatty83 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Was a weird scene but basically wasn't a good move from Jon. They wrote it specifically to make everyone look on deaths door before the save, no other reason for Jon to shout at a dragon, he had no chance though I was kinda hoping for him to be the dragonslayer when it became apparent that Arya was gonna be the Night King killer. At least he would have got some pay off and further his legend from this battle. Instead he just looked like a bit of a clown trying and failing to beat a dragon in a fight. They did well to make Viscerion look like the stronger dragon though. Drogon is the biggest but I guess being a wight givs you that extra edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerevanin Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 31 minutes ago, MinscS2 said: While it was pretty hard to see what dragon was which mid-fight, 100% this. I didn't know what was going on until they showed the riders (and even then I was usually pretty confused) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kajjo Posted April 29, 2019 Author Share Posted April 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Greenmonsterff said: I was disappointed that Dany didn’t kill Viserion. It could have been a real moment, her having to kill her undead child. Yes, I had hoped on that solution, too. I like, however, that Daenerys only survived because she was fire-proof to wight dragon fire, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bran the Shipper Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 I would have preferred to see Jon actually fight Viserion. That would have been a step in salvaging that episode for me. Another step would be to have several of our other main characters take on some white walkers. Would make it seem like everyone contributed, as opposed to them just surviving until they needed to be saved. But I digress. As for Viserion, I can only assume that by losing half his face, his flames were significantly weakened. Otherwise that tiny rock Jon was cowering behind would have melted and there wouldn't be enough left of Jon to try and bring back a second time. Still sad to see Viserion go down, he was always my favorite of the dragons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SansaJonRule Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 13 hours ago, Kajjo said: The blue fire coming out of his torn body, neck and head was great, his facing of with Jon was epic. Here the CGI really was top. yeah, that was cool. it seemed like he was weakening. The dragon fight was awesome. I loved it. Jon came close to getting bit at one point. I was hoping to see Jon kill Viserion. I thought that's what he was doing when he ran out from behind the rock and then ran back. I thought he was looking for an opening to strike without getting toasted. In the end I think he was just facing death with all the defiance he could muster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyll.Ing. Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 And now a confused Jon walks around thinking his scream can kill dragons and/or wights. I hope he gets into a situation where he relies on that to work again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darmody Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 12 hours ago, chatty83 said: Was a weird scene but basically wasn't a good move from Jon. They wrote it specifically to make everyone look on deaths door before the save, no other reason for Jon to shout at a dragon, he had no chance though I was kinda hoping for him to be the dragonslayer when it became apparent that Arya was gonna be the Night King killer. At least he would have got some pay off and further his legend from this battle. Instead he just looked like a bit of a clown trying and failing to beat a dragon in a fight. They did well to make Viscerion look like the stronger dragon though. Drogon is the biggest but I guess being a wight givs you that extra edge. Jon maybe was confused about Targaryens and thought he could breath fire himself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Uncle P Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Speaking of Dragons, where's Rhaegal at the end of Ep 3? He's in trailer for Ep 4, did he turn tail and flee the battle like Drogon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatty83 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ser Uncle P said: Speaking of Dragons, where's Rhaegal at the end of Ep 3? He's in trailer for Ep 4, did he turn tail and flee the battle like Drogon? He got his as whupped by Viscerion and was taken out of the battle. Considering they didn't show you I guess he either fled or was away from the Wights when taken down and just lay in a crmpled mess till he somehow miraculously recovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kajjo Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 53 minutes ago, Ser Uncle P said: Speaking of Dragons, where's Rhaegal at the end of Ep 3? He landed severely wounded and literally run and slid away, throwing Jon from his back. Since we see him flying in E4, he appears to recover fast enough, though. We don't know how much time, how many days are supposed to pass, yet. They will need weeks to burn the dead, heal the wounded, rebuild Winterfell, and collect themselves for the next war. It might be reasonable that a magical dragon heals up in a few weeks time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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