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The books are not going to end like this

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6 minutes ago, Coffeewiththegods said:

"She seemed like the best candidate provided we weren't thinking of her in that moment.” ... "We Hoped to avoid the expected. Jon Snow has always been the hero, the one who's been the savior, but to US it didn't seem right" - D&D

Yes. My point stands. They never said, “We chose.” 

You’re free to infer that, and you may be right. I just know how settling up sequences in film works, and I take it to mean something else. 

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"We hoped to avoid" sounds like they choose it.  This means either GRRM hasn't decided how to end the Other treat or the ending is really in the weeds. 

Either way, the show strongly suggests that the Others will be defeated before they get past the North.  That's because none of the major show-character's have arcs that end with the Others. Jon, Dany, Tyrion, Sansa, Bran, Sam, and Arya all surviving the long night doesn't match with the Others breaking through and fucking up Westeros. 

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15 hours ago, Greenmonsterff said:

I don’t understand. It seems that we agree. Why are you LYAO or in disbelief at this post. 

I meant the post you were commenting on....sorry about that!

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23 hours ago, House Cambodia said:

The conspiracy theory I don't buy, but it would be more credible to guess that he's finished TWOW but agreed not to publish it until the show's done. I wouldn't be surprised to see TWOW come out in October/beginning of winter and ADOS out in February/beginning of spring.

IF it's true that he waiting for the show to end, I would expect an announcement of a release date a couple months after the show ends, while we're still going through GoT withdrawal. ;)

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On 4/30/2019 at 4:55 AM, neutralbhad said:

The story has always been about lords being petty and fighting each other, all while a force of extinction that they don't believe in is coming. It's an analogy for climate change. 

Um, what? In the 1960s you'd say it was an analogy for exploding nuclear plants. Or the end of precious metals. In the 1980s it'd be global cooling. But is there anything in these novels that says George R.R. Martin would make a lame point like that? It's in your head. George Martin has way more respect for his story than that. And so should anyone who has read a few novels here and there. Plenty of times when something people didn't expect creeps up on them.

I can also add that Martin originally didn't plan to include anything supernatural AT ALL, but his publisher talked him out of that level of realism. Readers of fantasy want magic, he said. So Martin added magic. Yeah, some symbolism there.

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3 hours ago, Jarl Halstein said:

Um, what? In the 1960s you'd say it was an analogy for exploding nuclear plants. Or the end of precious metals. In the 1980s it'd be global cooling. But is there anything in these novels that says George R.R. Martin would make a lame point like that? It's in your head. George Martin has way more respect for his story than that. And so should anyone who has read a few novels here and there. Plenty of times when something people didn't expect creeps up on them.

I can also add that Martin originally didn't plan to include anything supernatural AT ALL, but his publisher talked him out of that level of realism. Readers of fantasy want magic, he said. So Martin added magic. Yeah, some symbolism there.

Climate Change is not supernatural. It's also something that people like you are not seeing creeping up on us. It's also in the author's head, as he admitted in an interview a while back. The Others are not a one-note allegory of Climate Change, but it is a legitimate factor in their interpretation, according to GRRM.

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