Ser Loras The Gay Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Why the knights of the vale are at Winterfell right now? Lord Baelish is dead, so they're not there because the warden of the vale is there. Sansa has no right to House Arryn so they're not there because of her. Robert Arryn is at the vale right now, so they're not there because of him. Why are they wasting their lives really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaretto Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Robin has probably been killed by the Mountain Clans by now while his entire army have their little adventure up North. They all seem to have forgotten his existence though as they pledged their allegiance to the King in North. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhaenysBee Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 For no reason at all. The Vale army should have marched home after they won the battle of the bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euron III Greyjoy Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 As we speak Timett, son of Timett is sitting on the Weirwood throne of the Arryn's after throwing Robin out of the Moon Door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erkan12 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Ser Loras The Gay said: Why the knights of the vale are at Winterfell right now? Lord Baelish is dead, so they're not there because the warden of the vale is there. Sansa has no right to House Arryn so they're not there because of her. Robert Arryn is at the vale right now, so they're not there because of him. Why are they wasting their lives really? They declared for Jon Snow, and called him King iirc, not only the Northern lords, they are currently loyal to Jon and Sansa as far as we know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Loras The Gay Posted May 1, 2019 Author Share Posted May 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Erkan12 said: They declared for Jon Snow, and called him King iirc, not only the Northern lords, they are currently loyal to Jon and Sansa as far as we know. Okay, that makes even less sense than the option that they're there without a reason. Why'd they pledge alliance to Sansa? What did she do for them? What rights she has? What do they gain from that other than die horribly for fights that aren't theirs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AryaNymeriaVisenya Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Lord Royce has clearly taken over command from Baelish. Sansa is Robin's cousin, Royce was Ned's childhood buddy. He likely won't leave until the kids are secure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Loras The Gay Posted May 1, 2019 Author Share Posted May 1, 2019 11 minutes ago, AryaNymeriaVisenya said: Lord Royce has clearly taken over command from Baelish. Sansa is Robin's cousin, Royce was Ned's childhood buddy. He likely won't leave until the kids are secure. I don't understand this, why then no letters from robin asking how things are going? Why not a single mention of the fact they're still there from the vale? Why all the other lords are okay with this literal treason? Why is no one touching this fact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erkan12 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 14 minutes ago, Ser Loras The Gay said: Okay, that makes even less sense than the option that they're there without a reason. Why'd they pledge alliance to Sansa? What did she do for them? What rights she has? What do they gain from that other than die horribly for fights that aren't theirs? Sansa helped them to get rid of Littlefinger, knights of the Vale were too honorable to kill their ''Lord Protector of the Vale'' Littlefinger but since they were under the roof of House Stark as guests, they didn't interfere with the Sansa's and Arya's execution, maybe they are grateful for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Loras The Gay Posted May 1, 2019 Author Share Posted May 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, Erkan12 said: Sansa helped them to get rid of Littlefinger, knights of the Vale were too honorable to kill their ''Lord Protector of the Vale'' Littlefinger but since they were under the roof of House Stark as guests, they didn't interfere with the Sansa's and Arya's execution, maybe they are grateful for that. What? But why'd be resentful of LittleFinger? They thought Lysa killed herself and they only got to know the truth at LF "trial". As far as they know, LF helped them for vouching for the Vale when they remained neutral at the Five King War. They should be grateful and that's the biggest reason on why they march north to defend Winterfell because they were grateful for LF not Sansa. He helped, not Sansa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erkan12 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ser Loras The Gay said: What? But why'd be resentful of LittleFinger? They thought Lysa killed herself and they only got to know the truth at LF "trial". As far as they know, LF helped them for vouching for the Vale when they remained neutral at the Five King War. They should be grateful and that's the biggest reason on why they march north to defend Winterfell because they were grateful for LF not Sansa. He helped, not Sansa. Are you trolling Ser Loras The Gay? Yohn Royce hates LF, I mean he really hates the guy, he said that many times before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Loras The Gay Posted May 1, 2019 Author Share Posted May 1, 2019 Just now, Erkan12 said: Are you trolling Ser Loras The Gay? Yohn Royce hates LF, I mean he really hates the guy, he said that many times before. No, I am not trolling. See the events as they were in the show, LF vouched for the Vale not being destroyed after the war for not taking the Lannister side. He went to the Vale to be with Lysa and she adored him. As far as everyone there knew, Lysa killed herself trying to kill Sansa. LF became the Warden as the law of the land commanded (he was married to lady Arryn). What was to be hated about LF seeing all this from the perspective of the characters not us as show viewers? No one knew about LF betrayal in KL against NED. No one knew he pushed Lysa. We did but not the characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiceBorn Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 4 hours ago, Ser Loras The Gay said: Why the knights of the vale are at Winterfell right now? Lord Baelish is dead, so they're not there because the warden of the vale is there. Sansa has no right to House Arryn so they're not there because of her. Robert Arryn is at the vale right now, so they're not there because of him. Why are they wasting their lives really? OMG Sansa will have to marry Sweetrobin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Loras The Gay Posted May 1, 2019 Author Share Posted May 1, 2019 Just now, TwiceBorn said: OMG Sansa will have to marry Sweetrobin. At the very least. If she doesn't then all the efforts of the Vale were literally for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mladen Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Because Royce also declared for King in the North at the end of Season 6. And after LF died, Sansa de facto became their leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erkan12 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, Ser Loras The Gay said: No, I am not trolling. See the events as they were in the show, LF vouched for the Vale not being destroyed after the war for not taking the Lannister side. He went to the Vale to be with Lysa and she adored him. As far as everyone there knew, Lysa killed herself trying to kill Sansa. LF became the Warden as the law of the land commanded (he was married to lady Arryn). What was to be hated about LF seeing all this from the perspective of the characters not us as show viewers? No one knew about LF betrayal in KL against NED. No one knew he pushed Lysa. We did but not the characters. LF almost killed Royce in here, you think there wouldn't be any consequences for that? ''I THINK NOT.'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyser1 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 44 minutes ago, Erkan12 said: They declared for Jon Snow, and called him King iirc, not only the Northern lords, they are currently loyal to Jon and Sansa as far as we know. 39 minutes ago, AryaNymeriaVisenya said: Lord Royce has clearly taken over command from Baelish. Sansa is Robin's cousin, Royce was Ned's childhood buddy. He likely won't leave until the kids are secure. This. Plus it appears that at least some Lords in the Vale (referencing a few seasons ago) were none too pleased to have sat on the sidelines of the war of the five kings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Loras The Gay Posted May 1, 2019 Author Share Posted May 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, Erkan12 said: LF almost killed Royce in here, you think there wouldn't be any consequences for that? He was clearly just showing that he had the trust of the lord of the Vale (Robert). But even then, where are the others lords? Royce is just the bigger one, but we have a lot of other houses there and all of them were at the battle of bastards at LF command. Did everyone hated LF for becoming the new Warden? What about their alligiance to the Arryns? 7 minutes ago, Risto said: Because Royce also declared for King in the North at the end of Season 6. And after LF died, Sansa de facto became their leader. But why exactly? If his motivation were only to kill LF in a "clean" way, he could simply comeback to the Vale where he pledged alliance and his serfdom. Not all knights that were at the battle of bastards were Royce's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigrid Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 I had just assumed that the Knights of the Vale didn't need much convincing about the whole advancing army of the dead thing and so stayed to help out. It's not like they the Eyrie in the winter so they would have an interested in making a stand in the North. They came to help Robyn's cousin in the North, and continue to do so, and really stopping White Walkers is in their own benefit. Why not do it with the army that has a dragon? The show did completely forget about Robyn. I just figures there were enough people left down there to take care of him, defend against mountain tribes and what now. I've really allowed myself to suspend disbelief when it comes to the show at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erkan12 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 23 minutes ago, Ser Loras The Gay said: He was clearly just showing that he had the trust of the lord of the Vale (Robert). But even then, where are the others lords? Royce is just the bigger one, but we have a lot of other houses there and all of them were at the battle of bastards at LF command. Did everyone hated LF for becoming the new Warden? What about their alligiance to the Arryns? If any of these lords in the Vale care about LF, someone would come forward and save Lord Baelish from the execution. Plain and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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