Kajjo Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 In the first scene Jon Snow light a funeral pyre with a young woman. Is that really supposed to be Lyanna Mormont? For me it looked like Lyanna Mormont -- but she cannot have a proper body anymore, can she? She was raised as a wight by the Nightking and we see her blue eyes. All wights crumbled to dust when the Nightking died. Is this a continuity error? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kajjo Posted May 7, 2019 Author Share Posted May 7, 2019 Most of the dead shown in the funeral pyres should have crumbled to dust and bones. This is very weid, The Nightking raised most dead to wights and they should have crumbled when the NK died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixFeetUnder Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 only the ww and night king shattered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinscS2 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 It was Lyanna. Everyone of the main cast got to torch someone they had loved, except for Jon who didn't really loose anyone (except for Edd, but he was already taken) so Jon got "stuck" with Lyanna. As for them crumbling to dust and bones, they where freshly raised bodies still held together by (dead) tissue. It would make no sense for them to disintegrate just because they where reanimated. Wights who have been dead for years and who barely more than bones on the other hand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btfu806 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 In previous episodes wights do crumble, but a lot of the time they have been dead for a while. Maybe Lyanna was too fresh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kajjo Posted May 7, 2019 Author Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 minute ago, SixFeetUnder said: only the ww and night king shattered. No, we always see White Walkers shatter to icy shards and wights crumble to dust and bones. For example, we see Viserion react like a wight: Instantly crumbling to dust and bones, a tight save for Jon. 1:40 one WW dies, all his wights crumble, only other wights keep moving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martianmister Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 She's a wight, not a White Walker. They don't shatter into pieces upon death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kajjo Posted May 7, 2019 Author Share Posted May 7, 2019 Just now, martianmister said: She's a Wight, not White Walter Exactly, and while White Walkers shatter into icy shards, wights usually crumble to bone and dust -- compare Viserion roaring inf ront of Jon, then turning into dust and bones. 9 minutes ago, MinscS2 said: they where freshly raised bodies still held together by (dead) tissue. Not so Viserion. Watch again that he turns to bones, not much flesh there. Should be the same for the bodies of men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinscS2 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kajjo said: Not so Viserion. Watch again that he turns to bones, not much flesh there. Should be the same for the bodies of men. He doesn't disintegrate into pieces, he simply falls to the ground with a big boom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kajjo Posted May 7, 2019 Author Share Posted May 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, MinscS2 said: He doesn't disintegrate into pieces, he simply falls to the ground with a big boom. That's simply wrong. 2:14 before flesh, after the fall you see the skull and bones and dust whirling up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixFeetUnder Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Also Viserion was turned when the night king touched him. Wasn’t done with an arm raising. Not that it really matters. Lol. But, I definitely think having the night king touch you and turning you means something different then the arm raising method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kajjo Posted May 7, 2019 Author Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 minute ago, SixFeetUnder said: But, I definitely think having the night king touch you and turning you means something different then the arm raising method. No, it doesn't. Viserion is just a wight. If Viserion had been the equivalent to a White Walker he would have shattered into icy shards. White Walkers are made from living, wights are made from dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinscS2 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kajjo said: That's simply wrong. 2:14 before flesh, after the fall you see the skull and bones and dust whirling up What are you on about? His body is still mostly whole after falling down. He doesn't shatter, distintegrate or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martianmister Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 15 minutes ago, Kajjo said: Exactly, and while White Walkers shatter into icy shards, wights usually crumble to bone and dust -- compare Viserion roaring inf ront of Jon, then turning into dust and bones. Viserion is an anomaly. He looks kind like a White Walter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kajjo Posted May 7, 2019 Author Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 minute ago, MinscS2 said: What are you on about? His body is still mostly whole after falling down. He doesn't shatter, distintegrate or anything. Have a close look directly after falling down. You see his bony skull and his rib bones, milliseconds before he had skin and flesh and blew blue flames. 1 minute ago, martianmister said: Viserion is an anomaly. He looks more like a White Walter. Not at all. Neither icy nor white. Just better intact because he did not decompose. Viserion looks like the wight ice bear they once encountered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixFeetUnder Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Vladimir furdik, the night king actor, once tweeted about his touch. Paraphrasing how did crasters babies change? he touched them. how did Viserion change? He touched him. What did blood raven say to bran in the cave, “he touched you?” Was the only reason i was bringing up Viserion being touched and changed. Obviously it meant something to the actor portraying the night king. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kajjo Posted May 7, 2019 Author Share Posted May 7, 2019 14 minutes ago, SixFeetUnder said: Was the only reason i was bringing up Viserion being touched and changed. Obviously it meant something to the actor portraying the night king. Yeah well, but it was never shown in the show and many actors have stated wrong interpretations. His comment is not relevant. Viserion can only be wight, raised from the dead. White Walkers are made from living entities. Viserion crumbled to bony skull and rib cage when the Nightking dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMario Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Wights die however D&D want them to for the sake of plot. They wanted the cheesy funeral pyre scene in episode 4, so they wanted the bodies to remain intact. Had they wanted the survivors to dump their ashes down a river, they would have had the bodies turn to dust. None of it matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Dragon10 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 19 minutes ago, Kajjo said: Viserion crumbled to bony skull and rib cage when the Nightking dies. How long has Viserion been dead now? I agree with SuperMario that D&D pretty much do whatever suits their scenes at the time, but just for arguments sake... I was thinking that maybe Viserion has been dead long enough that, if his body had just been left to rot, it would be not much more than some skin and then the bones? But that he was artificially prevented from rotting because he was a wight. Once the magic ends, his body returns to the state it would have been if he had never been raised. And people like Lyanna just look like regular dead because their bodies are fresh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.