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Honestly I don't see how a salary cap alone would be a step in the right direction - just implementing a wage cap alone is a waste of time as the midlevel clubs will still be left in the dust when it comes to transfer fees, agent and other intermediary fees and signing bonuses. In order for midlevel clubs to at least compete on wages the cap would need to be around £130m to £150m (based on EPL wage bill estimates) - outside the top 6, Everton have the highest wage bill at £145m. Everyone else is below £120m. Realistically though, the big clubs + players and agents + players union would never allow the cap to be that low. 

At £200m or more only the top 10 wealthiest clubs in the world carry wage bills of that size or greater so the status quo remains. In fact clubs with very high wage bills would benefit even more. Barca for instance have an eye watering wage bill of £431m. If a cap of say £230m to £250m were to be put into place, they'd have an additional 180-200 million annually to add to a transfer budget, upgrading infrastructure and scouting networks or greasing the palms of agents and inflated signing bonuses to attract players.

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Nope.

Football (or sports in general) is part of the entertainment industry. If you want to make comparissions compare it to a movie studio, and the players to actors if you will. The analogy works surprisingly well btw.

As much as some nvestment banker in the City in his fifties likes to picture himself as star athelete who scores big wins for his team, the fact of the matter is, he still is a balding little man with a belly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88yuVTtjFTs

What's the difference, right? No, idea why I had to think of that movie scene.

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1 hour ago, A Horse Named Stranger said:

As much as some nvestment banker in the City in his fifties likes to picture himself as star athelete who scores big wins for his team, the fact of the matter is, he still is a balding little man with a belly.

What is the point you are trying to make with this?

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don'T compare Sports with the finance industry.

One is entertainment, which is really free from any real economic value (and it really serves no economic purpose other than keeping the plebs happy).

The other thing is not entirely free of economic and should serve an economic purpose. Banks actually do by giving loans to companies and stuff. Investment bankers and hedge fund managers, well, there are very few professions I feel more contempt for. Make of that what you will.

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10 minutes ago, A Horse Named Stranger said:

don'T compare Sports with the finance industry.

One is entertainment, which is really free from any real economic value (and it really serves no economic purpose other than keeping the plebs happy).

The other thing is not entirely free of economic and should serve an economic purpose. Banks actually do by giving loans to companies and stuff. Investment bankers and hedge fund managers, well, there are very few work groups I feel more contempt for. Make of that what you will.

I was talking about capitalism’s and companies tendency to move towards monopolies. Usually through taking advantage of poor regulation you tend to find a number of huge companies at the top with those underneath unable to compete.

I think there is definitely a parallel in football. Almost every league in Europe is dominated by a tiny number ( usually 1) team that has the financial muscle to hoover up all the best assets and abuse their position.

Ok we’ve also seen the influx of foreign money to propel teams above their current position, but really that is the only way to do it. You could say that there is a parallel with companies like Uber who have pumped huge amounts of money into their business before being able to turn a profit, but still manage to push out all the completion by going in hard and fast. 

I don’t see the game become any more equal unless massive changes are made to the financial structure. Possibly that’s a wage cap, more collective bargaining for tv rights, or even something like a draft system. Or the premier league takes control of all the clubs and dishes out cash to all of them rather than let them operate as independent businesses.

of course none of that is ever going to happen. 

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Valencia pull off a big upset beating Barca in the Copa del Rey final. Valverde's job must surely be hanging by a thread  now.

 

According to a report in the Financial Times, Leeds United are in talks with several investors one of which is Qatar Sports Investment. According to the report, QSI have identified Leeds as their club of choice to enter English football and are seeking as much as a controlling interest however the report also says the owners preference currently is to sell a minority stake.

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Reports that Kante picked up a knee injury in training yesterday. Unknown how serious just yet but apparently his chances of making the EL final aren't looking too good. 

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Been watching United legends vs. Bayern legends. A 44 year old Beckham is still better than any of our current options at right wing. 

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3 hours ago, Iskaral Pust said:

Tuchel got a (surprise?) contract extension from PSG.

Not really a surprise, thought he signed that one a few months ago.

Again, Tuchel has some confidence on the owners' side, and he gets along with Neymar and the rest of the team quite well apparently. But he really has to show some improvement (result wise) in the CL next year, if he intends to stay, otherwise he is out extension or not.

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Atalanta should have 3rd place wrapped up. 3-1 up and  Sassuolo are a player down as well. 4th place is between the two Milan clubs now. 

 

ETA. Empoli have just equalised at Inter. AC Milan blew a 2-0 lead but are leading 3-2 atm. As it stands, Atalanta and AC Milan are 3rd and 4th.

ETA2. Inter take the lead again and move ahead of AC Milan. 

ETA3. Inter/Empoli was a great game. Inter won and finish 4th. Empoli fluffed a couple of massive chances in injury time and are relegated - a draw would have kept them up.

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Entertaining day in Italy. Sums up Milan’s season. They would’ve easily had CL with a proper manager imo. They should definitely sack Gattuso now 

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Batshit ending in the Inter game. That needless tug by Keita in midfield before Brozovic’s goal almost cost them a Champions League place.

Delighted Atalanta got the job done. They deserve that spot far more than the Milan clubs and have got there playing a much better brand of football.

Nice send off for De Rossi at Roma. Feels crazy that he is 35 already - he spent so much of his career waiting for Totti to retire so he’d become captain that he only held it for a couple of years.

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14 hours ago, Raja said:

Not sure if this has been linked here before, but a bit of an inside look at Liverpool's data analysis team - I think the article oversells it a bit, but still a decent read 

How data ( and some breathtaking soccer) brought Liverpool to the cusp of glory

 

There was an earlier article in FT which also gave some insights into data analysis.

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Liverpool are leading the way in world football when it comes to data analytics.

That’s according to Athletic Bilbao director of football Ignacio Palacios-Huerta, who is also a professor at the London School of Economics.

“There is clear leadership by one club: Liverpool. They have a group of four or five PhDs in maths and physics, and they know football,” he said.

The quotes from a lengthy piece in the Financial Times, which actually focusses on Barcelona’s ‘innovation hub’ and their multi-million euro attempts for marginal gains by employing hundreds of analysts – which includes scouting, current player and opposition analysis – amongst other things.

Liverpool are referenced as the benchmark though, which is a huge testament to FSG and the manner in which they’ve recruited.

 

 

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Three very close play off finals in League 2, League 1 and the Championship over the past few days.

As for the Championship play off final today, despite there being Chelsea links in both teams, I was slightly favouring Derby as it would have been nice to see Frank Lampard achieve promotion in his first season as a manager, but it is still good to see a club like Aston Villa return to the Premier League. Also, it was pretty neat to see two Aston Villa fans in captain Jack Grealish and manager Dean Smith lead them back up to the top division. A quite brilliant performance from John McGinn, too, who seemed to cover every blade of grass.

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