Jaxom 1974 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 17 minutes ago, Darth Richard II said: That's a pretty far reach from the shot of a laser in a Star Wars trailer. Not to mention Death Star lasers are green. Granted. But it's all highly speculative at this point. But since it looks like there's another desert planet, and another jungle planet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Jaxom 1974 said: Oh goody... https://www.cbr.com/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-footage-new-death-star/?utm_content=buffer6c215&utm_medium=Social-Distribution&utm_source=CBR-TW&utm_campaign=CBR-TW (Struggling to get the link to look pretty. Hope it works...) Is he going to do his version of “Return of the Jedi” this time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 57 minutes ago, Darth Richard II said: That's a pretty far reach from the shot of a laser in a Star Wars trailer. Not to mention Death Star lasers are green. Starkiller’s lasers were red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 19 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Starkiller’s lasers were red. They were also a heck of a lot bigger. And for some reason I thought they were green. Rewatch time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 34 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Is he going to do his version of “Return of the Jedi” this time? One assumes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karaddin Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Yeah I really don't buy that's a Death Star. The amount of destruction around that brief shot is nothing like even the "single ignition" of the original Death Star shown in Rogue One. That's some conventional or tactical weapon attacking a target, not a planet killer destroying a planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relic Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 8 hours ago, karaddin said: You know having emotions isn't something to be sneered at right? Yeah, he didn't express it very well and saying something like "ffs can you at least wait to see it before judging it a failure" might be a better way to phrase it but "your silly fragile emotions" makes you sound like you're embracing the shitty manosphere culture. This poster has, time and time again, attempted to silence opinions he does not agree with in regard to this movie franchise. So, I'm asking him to give just ONE reason that isn't totally selfish/emotionally driven for why he thinks he has a right to do so on a public forum. I totally disagree with the second part of your post, but I don't really want to get into it other than to say my issues go FAR beyond TLJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 You can sit here and demand I debate you all you want, if you think I’ve been trying to silence every opinion I don’t agree with here, you either missed a few threads or haven’t been paying attention. That’s the last I’m going to say on the subject. P.s. This isn’t a public forum, not in the sense that you think it is anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 On 8/26/2019 at 1:05 AM, karaddin said: Gonna spoiler tag this Reveal hidden contents Its definitely the final say - rather than falling out of screen he falls into Obi Wan's arms, gets a deathbed discussion and attains peace with OBW in accepting that they were never really enemies but victims of Sidious. Most importantly for why its final is that he knew about Luke and him gaining that knowledge is when OBW decided he needed to die, the on screen death with OBW closing his open eyes could still be handwaved away if they wanted but thats a plot reason he stays dead there. You could certainly retell the end of those events in live action though, although I'd be surprised if they managed to match the perfection of how they animated it. Yeah to get back to this, that scene was perfect and I really don’t see them trying to recreate or retcon it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrddin Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Something to consider past "JJ is just copying the OT for fan service: Lucas' Poetry Theory Lucas looked at all of this like a piece of music with recurring themes that invert and mirror. Having Palpatine show up in IX as a ghost mirrors I where he was the "phantom menace". Vision or real, Rey having a double bladed Swiss Army Saber mirrors (or inverts) Maul. (but who truly thinks Rey's turn will be in the trailer?) But MOST importantly, the footage shows us the real conflict in this whole 9 part sage: The tragedy of Threepio and Artoo. Threepio, the sleeper agent created by the Chosen One himself, has been dormant. Artoo has suspected his true nature for over 60 years. Now, when the phantom menace arises again, Threepio awakens. His eyes turn red. He is the old evil reborn. Artoo knows what he must do. He must find the high ground. But seriously. Poetry. Looks for inverted images/themes mirroring Episode I in this movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, Myrddin said: Something to consider past "JJ is just copying the OT for fan service: Lucas' Poetry Theory Lucas looked at all of this like a piece of music with recurring themes that invert and mirror. Having Palpatine show up in IX as a ghost mirrors I where he was the "phantom menace". Vision or real, Rey having a double bladed Swiss Army Saber mirrors (or inverts) Maul. (but who truly thinks Rey's turn will be in the trailer?) But MOST importantly, the footage shows us the real conflict in this whole 9 part sage: The tragedy of Threepio and Artoo. Threepio, the sleeper agent created by the Chosen One himself, has been dormant. Artoo has suspected his true nature for over 60 years. Now, when the phantom menace arises again, Threepio awakens. His eyes turn red. He is the old evil reborn. Artoo knows what he must do. He must find the high ground. But seriously. Poetry. Looks for inverted images/themes mirroring Episode I in this movie. But, another Death Star, really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astromech Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: But, another Death Star, really? But this one has a Starbucks in the cafeteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrddin Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I'm also hopeful there is not another Death Star. Wreckage and ruins, yes. New functioning one? No. Please. There are things that seem to happen in every part of the trilogies: 1, 4, and 7, 2, 5, and 8, and now 3, 6, and 9. Rise of Skywalker will definitely have thematic parallels to Return of the Jedi. AND Revenge of the Sith. The inversion/mirroring of themes across the entire series is what I was both suggesting (and joking about) above. It's based on the vague memory of reading the Ring Theory years ago. Episode 9 will end kind of where Episode I began. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I don't think that laser came from a Death Star. For one, the laser fires twice in quick succession. No DS ever needs to do that, and two, as has been pointed out DS lasers are green. For the most part, lasers from Imperial/First Order vessels are green. I believe the Dreadnought's big cannons were a different color, but they also had a different look, like projectiles or plasma bolts, not continuous lasers. For all we know, it could come from a rebel ship. But as we saw in the first trailer, there will be a DS, the ruined one, from the battle of Endor, likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrddin Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 At the risk of completely destroying my hunch about recurring themes, look at inversion of character development: https://i.redd.it/524jf4fbzvi31.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughn Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 15 hours ago, Darth Richard II said: They were also a heck of a lot bigger. And for some reason I thought they were green. Rewatch time. Well Deathstar's weapon was a laser like energy beam (albeit slower than light like all energy weapons in SW) and Starkiller was plasma from a star, right? I always thought Starkiller was basically a squirt gun approach to planetary destruction. Step 1- acquire material into chamber. Step 2- expel at force at opponent. If we're getting an inversion of tropes, I can't wait to see the First Order straight up murder some Ewoks with modern technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Just a call for folks to keep it civil, even when disagreeing. And if you find someone's posts harmful to your feelings or otherwise cause you significant annoyance such as you can't stay civil, consider putting them on ignore. It's therapuetic, and keeps the peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 7 hours ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: But, another Death Star, really? But, we don’t know that, really. Maybe wait until that is confirmed before grabbing the torches and pitchforks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 To be fair, Palpatine has always wanted those giant destroying things of death. That's kind of his deal. We don't know why he is so obsessed with it, but he cares massively about creating a fully operational battle station. I don't honestly think that's what it is in this movie given what I've seen of the toys and the like. But it's not exactly a reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Also, the idea of remaking RotJ without Ewoks is seen scornfully? Isn't that, ya know, a totally awesome thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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