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Do you feel this show had any negative effect on how you view the books?

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On 7/9/2019 at 8:06 PM, Mystical said:

The story isn't finished (and probably never will) so your complaint has no merit. 

 

On 7/9/2019 at 8:06 PM, Mystical said:

what does it matter if you like it or not?

 

On 7/9/2019 at 8:06 PM, Mystical said:

Just because you personally didn't like what happens to your obvious fave character means very little in the grand scheme of things.

 

On 7/9/2019 at 8:06 PM, Mystical said:

Is it his fault you had blinders or didn't pay attention or want your fave character to be handed only the best? Nope, you oy have yourself to blame for that. And then you hate on creators for not giving you what you wanted, calling the story a cliché, even when the story isn't even finished.

 

Take another look at the topic :D If you don't wish to read about posters personal preferences you just... don't.

 

On 7/9/2019 at 8:06 PM, Mystical said:

Dany is plenty gray already in the books and unlike the show, the books don't ask you to applaud her blood/fire lust and slaughter and questionable decisions. But even the show, badly written as it was, it was the fans own fault for not seeing the darker side of Dany. Sure it was clumsily written and they always tried to gloss over it, but pretending it wasn't there is like saying you didn't actually watch the show or simply had blinders on while you did.

I get what you mean; the blankness at Viserys death, sexy-time-face when feeding the chained dragons a slaver and crucifying people who had crucified children - is to meagre to cut it for me.

Actually it's so meagre that I took it to mean she was allowed some ruthlessness or fiery temper or whatever and still be a heroine, like male heroes often are allowed some faults to their character. Silly me.

 

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On 7/11/2019 at 9:50 AM, SeanF said:

What the show probably got right is that the nobility of Westeros will be hugely prejudiced against Daenerys.  She's a woman, she's the Mad King's daughter, she was married to a horse Lord.  Cersei's description of her as a "foreign whore who doesn't know her place" is likely to be the general view.  Everything she does will be viewed in the worst possible light, and she'll be blamed for things that aren't her fault.

A plausible reaction. And I would bet, that Cersei or whoever rules in Kings Landing will stimulate those thoughts by spreading propaganda. A foreign invader with an army of ruthless slaves (freed slaves, but who knows the difference) and murdering, raping and pillaging barbarians with two very dangerous and deadly dragons. That will make it very difficult for Daenerys to find allies or rule after conquering the continent.

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I hope GRRM keeps Cersei vs. Dany in the books. In fact, I sort of wish Tommen sticks around because I'd love to see Dany have to kill sweet innocent Tommen to take the throne.

And of course she would. She's fixated on ruling Westeros and isn't going to let anyone stand in her way. On top of that, Dany believes she has a destiny. GRRM is going to absolutely destroy anyone who thinks that. This was evidenced when reading Quentyn. You could predict Dany's ignoble, dumb death based on Quentyn's ending. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Rose of Red Lake said:

I hope GRRM keeps Cersei vs. Dany in the books. In fact, I sort of wish Tommen sticks around because I'd love to see Dany have to kill sweet innocent Tommen to take the throne.

And of course she would. She's fixated on ruling Westeros and isn't going to let anyone stand in her way. On top of that, Dany believes she has a destiny. GRRM is going to absolutely destroy anyone who thinks that. This was evidenced when reading Quentyn. You could predict Dany's ignoble, dumb death based on Quentyn's ending. 

 

 

I 'd expect Cersei to be taken out by Jon Con/Faegon.

Child murder is certainly not part of Dany's modus operandi.

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8 hours ago, SeanF said:

I 'd expect Cersei to be taken out by Jon Con/Faegon.

Child murder is certainly not part of Dany's modus operandi.

I still think its a better story if she's up against Cersei who will do anything to win as well, with a kid as her obstacle. I'd be more excited for that than boring JonCon. She's going to get to the point where she thinks she has to kill lots of people, including children, to win, anyway. 

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Yes, the ending did ruin it for me.

 

Season 8 was handles so incredibly badly, with a rushed ending that didn't make ANY sense and was beyond stupid.

 

It seems from what I have read that the ending to the books will be very similar and that leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

 

I may finish reading the books someday if he actually finishes the series....but I am no longer the excited fanboy that I was.

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Yes. Because it’s revealed that George intends to hurl Dany under the bus to make irrelevant thematic points whilst elevating two of his worst characters. It’s pure hypocrisy.

So Bran pursues his destiny and is rewarded with God powers and is made King? The Nerd in the Chair? Whilst Dany pursues her destiny and it’s all foolish hubris and madness. Really George? As a guy, if George wants to challenge a male power fantasy this is a very unusual way to do it. :D 

Oh but then there’s also the good boy who manages to screw up another relationship forcing him to get her killed. Are we advocating murder as a way of sorting out relationship problems? Only a weak man chooses. Maester Aemon was a bitter old man and his views can’t be taken seriously. Because the most heroic thing a man can do is to kill the woman he lives (Starscream voice). 

But the Starks can kill as many people as they want to take their house with the red door back. But Dany doing it as abominable act of Chaos that can only lead to doom. Pursuit of power is bad. So bad unless you have wolfsblood and are the Kings of Winter. Who can neatly kill all the bad people without any bad light being cast on it.

 

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Kind of. I despise my favourite character's ending so I'm less excited about the journey to get there. Although, has to be said we still don't know what Arya is for in the books, there is no Night King. She doesn't seem to have a role after the war. So out of the core 5 she is still a massive question mark.

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