Darth Richard II Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 51 minutes ago, Gaston de Foix said: I don't think Elodin's heritage/ethnicity is necessarily something that will come up in the KKC. That sounds more like a detail for stories set in Temerant. Does anyone know anything about publication/status? The Lin-Manuel update sounds like Hollywood speak for launchpad fail. There is no publication/status cause he's not working on it. It's dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlyaP Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Darth Richard II said: There is no publication/status cause he's not working on it. It's dead. I thought that was Zed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, IlyaP said: I thought that was Zed. You lost me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlyaP Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, Darth Richard II said: You lost me. https://giphy.com/gifs/pulp-fiction-FJcqpXtZ3Kt2M Pulp Fiction. Sorry. Trivia Host brain of mine finds the pop culture nuggets (and puns) everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyll.Ing. Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 On 12/29/2019 at 4:07 PM, Vaughn said: Would the thread title for discussing which will be more disappointing, 'Winds of Winter' or 'Doors of Stone' be better called 'Chinese Democracy' or 'Second Coming'? "Porcine aerobatics: Not all it's cracked up to be." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughn Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 14 hours ago, IlyaP said: Heh. But Chinese Democracy was actually released! Right! And no-one liked it after the long wait. I never read the last Temeraire book but it was widely panned as feeling like she just knocked it off out of obligation after the passion and creative spark for the story and characters had died. That's what's going to happen with both of these books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Widely panned where? My good reads buds all like it and I thought it was pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaston de Foix Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, Darth Richard II said: Widely panned where? My good reads buds all like it and I thought it was pretty good. I've never picked the Temeraire series. How would you say it compares overall to NOTW/WMF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 46 minutes ago, Gaston de Foix said: I've never picked the Temeraire series. How would you say it compares overall to NOTW/WMF? Do you mean The Slow Regard of Silent Things? I actually enjoyed the book. It was an interesting peak into the mind of someone clearly pretty damaged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 13 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Do you mean The Slow Regard of Silent Things? I actually enjoyed the book. It was an interesting peak into the mind of someone clearly pretty damaged. I think he means the Temeraire series by Naomi Novik. I only read the first book but it was MOR military fantasy, fairly indifferent prose, mediocre characterisation and the main dragon character was profoundly annoying. Not awful, but not particularly great either. The Name of the Wind was much better, Wise Man's Fear maybe around the same level. I am informed Temeraire improves markedly later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Wonder what happened with the Temeraire film option? announced with much joy and anticipation back in ... 2006. Ah, rights reverted as of 2016, as nothing happened. https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/193046/is-there-going-to-be-a-film-version-of-temeraire That happened the same year which brought the news Lin-Manuel Miranda optioned the Rothfuss books, which deal with Showtime, which changed its mind. https://deadline.com/2019/09/lin-manuel-mirandas-kingkiller-chronicle-not-moving-forward-showtime-project-is-being-shopped-lionsgate-1202735712/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Don’t want to derail too much but i will say I disagree strongly with wert and find Temeraire better then TNotW in every aspect. I think Ridley Scott optioned the film back when, and he was optioning things left and right at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Yah, Novik doesn't behave badly so that would be derailing fer shizzle! There, I just helped derail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Um, what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamjm Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 5 hours ago, Gaston de Foix said: I've never picked the Temeraire series. How would you say it compares overall to NOTW/WMF? I thought the writing in NOTW was definitely better, I read the first Temeraire book about a decade ago and thought it was not bad but it didn't really stand out either. I did intend to read the sequels (and maybe still will eventually) but didn't get round to it. More recently I've read Uprooted and Spinning Silver and really liked them both, I think Novik has improved a lot since her first novel. 47 minutes ago, Darth Richard II said: I think Ridley Scott optioned the film back when, and he was optioning things left and right at the time. I vaguely recall Peter Jackson being involved at some point as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Not Appearing Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Oddly, I had my hopes up seeing this bumped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlyaP Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 6 hours ago, Vaughn said: And no-one liked it after the long wait. Saying "no one" is a bit of a precarious statement - I quite enjoyed it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, williamjm said: I thought the writing in NOTW was definitely better, I read the first Temeraire book about a decade ago and thought it was not bad but it didn't really stand out either. On a pure prose style level The Name of the Wind is substantially better than Temeraire, but in terms of consistency of setting and character, Temeraire is superior, IMO. The former is more memorable, but there's something to be said for Novik's journeyman work, achieving the style and tone she wants to achieve without overpadding. I read five or six of the novels and enjoyed them all as enjoyable fluff (but my interest petered out at that point), whereas I felt no urge to read more of Rothfuss when I was done with Name. Quote I did intend to read the sequels (and maybe still will eventually) but didn't get round to it. More recently I've read Uprooted and Spinning Silver and really liked them both, I think Novik has improved a lot since her first novel. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 19 minutes ago, williamjm said: I thought the writing in NOTW was definitely better, I read the first Temeraire book about a decade ago and thought it was not bad but it didn't really stand out either. I did intend to read the sequels (and maybe still will eventually) but didn't get round to it. More recently I've read Uprooted and Spinning Silver and really liked them both, I think Novik has improved a lot since her first novel. I vaguely recall Peter Jackson being involved at some point as well. Jackson and Scott optioned everything they could get their hands on in the 00s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 I'm still confused about the last Temeraire book being widely panned. I feel like I missed a memo or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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