Werthead Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, Gaston de Foix said: Hmm. Does this mean that Doors of Stone is not releasing this year either? Gollancz is PR's UK publisher... Doors of Stone is incomplete, and it's far from certain that DAW and Gollancz would rush it out fast if it was. Thorn of Emberlain is at least nominally complete. The September release date mooted on Locus a few weeks ago did seem highly plausible, so I wonder why it's not in the listing, unless a major problem was identified in editing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Gaston de Foix said: Hmm. Does this mean that Doors of Stone is not releasing this year either? Gollancz is PR's UK publisher... I uh, I'm not sure if you are joking here or not... Rhom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jussi Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 On 1/15/2020 at 11:52 AM, Jussi said: According to Locus Forthcoming Books, The Thorn of Emberlain will be published in September 2020: https://locusmag.com/forthcomingbooks/ Now it has been removed from the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughn Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Maybe because it's coming out earlier? [I know, I know it's not. Just let me think positive thoughts for moment.] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Welp... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jussi Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 It has been a year since Lynch completed The Thorn of Emberlain. I wonder when the book will be released. https://scottlynch78.tumblr.com/post/185080494228/although-a-cat-was-definitely-trying-to-help-me https://thewertzone.blogspot.com/2019/05/scott-lynch-completes-thorn-of-emberlain.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaston de Foix Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 It will be done when it's done. Every time you ask when the book will be finished, George kills a Stark. I'll be happy to wait forever for the book. Scott Lynch is not my bitch. 42 minutes ago, Jussi said: It has been a year since Lynch completed The Thorn of Emberlain. I wonder when the book will be released. https://scottlynch78.tumblr.com/post/185080494228/although-a-cat-was-definitely-trying-to-help-me https://thewertzone.blogspot.com/2019/05/scott-lynch-completes-thorn-of-emberlain.html In all seriousness, I think what as finished was a first draft which required extensive edits and revisions. I still have hope it will come out next year. I hope Scott will post an update for his fans sometime soon. IlyaP and Ser Scot A Ellison 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 6 hours ago, Gaston de Foix said: It will be done when it's done. Every time you ask when the book will be finished, George kills a Stark. I'll be happy to wait forever for the book. Scott Lynch is not my bitch. In all seriousness, I think what as finished was a first draft which required extensive edits and revisions. I still have hope it will come out next year. I hope Scott will post an update for his fans sometime soon. Sure. All that is true. That said, if I’m Scott, from now on I don’t announce a damn thing about the book until it’s been edited and is on the way to the printer. We can handle silence far more than false hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkess Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 On 5/23/2020 at 2:33 PM, Gaston de Foix said: It will be done when it's done. Every time you ask when the book will be finished, George kills a Stark. I'll be happy to wait forever for the book. Scott Lynch is not my bitch. In all seriousness, I think what as finished was a first draft which required extensive edits and revisions. I still have hope it will come out next year. I hope Scott will post an update for his fans sometime soon. I think this is a really unnecessary response to someone posting a mild-mannered question about a draft that was completed a year ago. It was not an attack on the author nor an entitled demand. Rhom, RedEyedGhost, HexMachina and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 We know from the Rothfuss situation that you can have a draft completed and the full book not out twenty years later, so in itself we may have read too much in to the news that "a" draft was complete, although Scott should probably not have widely publicised the news so widely through multiple social media channels in that case. I have asked Scott if he'd provide an update given it's been a year and we'll see if he does. My suspicion is that the draft was done and then he got snarled up in rewrites. It might be why they never announced a publishing date even after meetings last year with the publisher to determine such a window. The publisher may have said they felt more work needed to be done so they decided not to put a deadline on anything. Argonath Diver and Gaston de Foix 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jussi Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Thanks for answers. I am actually happy to wait as long as it takes for GRRM to finish The Winds of Winter. ASoIaF has been my favourite book series since I found it in 2002. I stopped watching Game of Thrones after season 4, and I haven't read any spoilers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaston de Foix Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 10 hours ago, Starkess said: I think this is a really unnecessary response to someone posting a mild-mannered question about a draft that was completed a year ago. It was not an attack on the author nor an entitled demand. My humor doesn't always translate well online. It was not an attack on anyone, least of all Jussi. I was just parodying a decade or so of prior online discussions that inevitably turn into the recitation of slogans or intemperate attacks rather than reasoned discussion. Jussi, you have remarkable self-discipline to wait so patiently for the Winds of Winter and not watch GoT. But, I will say, as someone who made the opposite choice, watching the show to the end does lessen the thirst. It's different for Lynch because it's the excellence of his writing, humor, and imagination that brings his novels alive. And as I've said before he's been open about his struggles with mental health and the effect on his writing. One can't help but sympathize. Poobah and Starkess 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Jussi said: Thanks for answers. I am actually happy to wait as long as it takes for GRRM to finish The Winds of Winter. ASoIaF has been my favourite book series since I found it in 2002. I stopped watching Game of Thrones after season 4, and I haven't read any spoilers. Stopped a season earlier than I. Can’t say I’m not a little envious! john 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3CityApache Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ran said: Stopped a season earlier than I. Can’t say I’m not a little envious! Please don't start it here. When we, who have seen it all, start talk about our jealousy, it would be overwhelming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jussi Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 25 minutes ago, Gaston de Foix said: My humor doesn't always translate well online. It was not an attack on anyone, least of all Jussi. I was just parodying a decade or so of prior online discussions that inevitably turn into the recitation of slogans or intemperate attacks rather than reasoned discussion. Yeah, it didn't feel like an attack at all. I understood it was ment as humour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baxus Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, 3CityApache said: Please don't start it here. When we, who have seen it all, start talk about our jealousy, it would be overwhelming. One of the worst things I did was watch GoT to the end. Poobah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Werthead said: We know from the Rothfuss situation that you can have a draft completed and the full book not out twenty years later, so in itself we may have read too much in to the news that "a" draft was complete, although Scott should probably not have widely publicised the news so widely through multiple social media channels in that case. Scott definitely appeared to be under the impression it was ready to be published in September 2019, I heard him say so at a con in Luxembourg earlier last year. When it first missed it I just thought it must be some technical publishing slot reason. But now it seems like the author and the publishers/editors might have different ideas about the final draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 1 hour ago, john said: Scott definitely appeared to be under the impression it was ready to be published in September 2019, I heard him say so at a con in Luxembourg earlier last year. When it first missed it I just thought it must be some technical publishing slot reason. But now it seems like the author and the publishers/editors might have different ideas about the final draft. That's interesting. Perhaps the hold-up is on Gollancz's end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkess Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 4 hours ago, Gaston de Foix said: My humor doesn't always translate well online. It was not an attack on anyone, least of all Jussi. I was just parodying a decade or so of prior online discussions that inevitably turn into the recitation of slogans or intemperate attacks rather than reasoned discussion. Whoops, fair enough! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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