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2 hours ago, Vaughn said:

The problems with this theory is that 1) the Magi are so, so, so much more powerful than anyone else we've met in these books (Teleportation (or invisibility, unclear), mind control, etc... ) and 2) the rest of the exceptionalists were wiped out at the end of Book 3 so I'd say the Falconer is a one man band. He got Patience by surprise I guess (still a bit iffy, IMO, how she died so easily) but there are other 4-5 ring Magi who were her allies who survived - he's weaker than them and can't surprise all of them.

 

My guess is the Falconer tries to harness/team up with the dark forces Patience is afraid of, opens up a Pandora's jar* of ills and that's the end showdown of the series. 

 

Shout out to How Did This Get Made for that fact. 

Is the Falconer weaker than the 4-5 ring magi? I understood the Dreamsteel to be augmenting his abilities such as through his control of multiple birds. If the other Quietists realize what happened to Patience and can unite then of course they can take him to the cleaners.  But you have to wonder if Patience's death will disrupt their ability to coordinate. 

I actually think the solution to (1) is that Locke or others will try to provoke the Visigoths to come visit as a way of counterbalancing the magi, if it is in fact true that Visigoths destroy magic users.  After all they did not destroy humans or the Eldren buildings the last time they visited... 

I guess the other possibility is an alliance between the remaining Quietists and Locke. 

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On ‎8‎/‎20‎/‎2019 at 9:24 PM, Gaston de Foix said:

Is the Falconer weaker than the 4-5 ring magi? I understood the Dreamsteel to be augmenting his abilities such as through his control of multiple birds. If the other Quietists realize what happened to Patience and can unite then of course they can take him to the cleaners.  But you have to wonder if Patience's death will disrupt their ability to coordinate. 

I actually think the solution to (1) is that Locke or others will try to provoke the Visigoths to come visit as a way of counterbalancing the magi, if it is in fact true that Visigoths destroy magic users.  After all they did not destroy humans or the Eldren buildings the last time they visited... 

I guess the other possibility is an alliance between the remaining Quietists and Locke. 

i'm going to have to do a re read before this comes out, I have no f'ing clue what you are on about. 

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On 8/23/2019 at 4:42 AM, BigFatCoward said:

i'm going to have to do a re read before this comes out, I have no f'ing clue what you are on about. 

LOL. I am in the midst of a re-read myself. Now backtracked to RSURS. My recollection was that it was pretty stand-alone and didn't have much to tell us about where the series was heading. I'm not so sure now. 

There is the obvious question of who Merrain is working for, since she succeeds in spoiling the relationship between Stragos and the GB very effectively (by murdering the officers at the prison). The Black Table of Emberlain would be my guess. 

There are tantalizing hints that there exist magical forces in the world that have not summoned the doom of the Eldren upon themselves, such as the sirens/creatures in the Parlour Passage, whose powers extend to some form of telepathy. There is the mysterious fate of the settlers of Hope of Silver. There is the Eldren underwater city. 

I suspect we will revisit some of these places and mysteries. 

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On 8/23/2019 at 5:14 AM, Gaston de Foix said:

LOL. I am in the midst of a re-read myself. Now backtracked to RSURS. My recollection was that it was pretty stand-alone and didn't have much to tell us about where the series was heading.  I'm not so sure now. 

There is the obvious question of who Merrain is working for, since she succeeds in spoiling the relationship between Stragos and the GB very effectively (by murdering the officers at the prison).  The Black Table of Emberlain would be my guess. 

There are tantalizing hints that there exist magical forces in the world that have not summoned the doom of the Eldren upon themselves, such as  the sirens/creatures in the Parlour Passage, whose powers extend to some form of telepathy.  There is the mysterious fate of the settlers of Hope of Silver.  There is the Eldren underwater city. 

I suspect we will revisit some of these places and mysteries. 

Locke and Jean visit Atlantis - sign me up! 

I had forgotten about Merrain until I skimmed book 2 this weekend. That's more interesting to me that the Falconer, who is clearly just an a-hole. 

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I've done some googling to see if there is any news on the manuscript that Lynch turned in earlier this year and I've found nothing.  I'm hoping someone else's google foo is better than mine.  Anyone have news?

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dunno, scot.  but his twitter is full of star wars talk, so no one should search there looking for ToE updates unless they have seen episode IX already.

that said, the speculation descended very quickly to ewoks being the fremen of the SW setting: they will subjugate the universeendor is a prison planet. yub-nub is a killing word.  we are amused (though the latter point is disputed by learned professionals here).

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Scott and his publishers had a meeting at WorldCon in August to go over the MS and put together a release plan, which would be announced at the right time. They haven't announced it yet.

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5 hours ago, Werthead said:

Scott and his publishers had a meeting at WorldCon in August to go over the MS and put together a release plan, which would be announced at the right time. They haven't announced it yet.

Thank you.  That’s better than nothing.  :)

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20 hours ago, sologdin said:

dunno, scot.  but his twitter is full of star wars talk, so no one should search there looking for ToE updates unless they have seen episode IX already.

that said, the speculation descended very quickly to ewoks being the fremen of the SW setting: they will subjugate the universeendor is a prison planet. yub-nub is a killing word.  we are amused (though the latter point is disputed by learned professionals here).

Maybe he's writing a star wars comic or novel? Maybe even a film/tv trilogy :)

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5 hours ago, Jussi said:

According to Locus Forthcoming Books, The Thorn of Emberlain will be published in September 2020:

https://locusmag.com/forthcomingbooks/

 

 

Great news if true.  Scott is a hugely talented writer and his world is worthy of a broader readership/television series. 

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9 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said:

Hope this turns out to be true.  It means two long overdue books to be delivered this year.  :)

What’s the second? Or is that sarcasm.

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17 hours ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said:

Peace Talks from Jim Butcher’s “Dresden Files”.

The last novel in the series was published in 2014. A six-year wait? Pfah. These people don't know they are born.

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Nevertheless I can't remember a bloody thing of what was happening. Will have to reread at least few of the last ones.

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The Del Rey releases on Amazon.com are now up until October and this book is not listed.

Nor is it on Gollancz listings for Amazon Uk.

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This is one of the rare examples of books I believe in no sooner than I see it on a bookstore shelf. I do believe it will happen eventually, not very hopeful for this year though.

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20 hours ago, Calibandar said:

The Del Rey releases on Amazon.com are now up until October and this book is not listed.

Nor is it on Gollancz listings for Amazon Uk.

Hmm.  Does this mean that Doors of Stone is not releasing this year either? Gollancz is PR's UK publisher...

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