Ser Scot A Ellison Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 I’m re-reading the series. I’m really looking forward to Thorn of Emberlain. Hope we have word of publication soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Patrek Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Fuck! I clicked on this thread hoping to discover that we had a pub date! Rhom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3CityApache Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 7 hours ago, Lord Patrek said: Fuck! I clicked on this thread hoping to discover that we had a pub date! Like we all. Shame on you, Scot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Patrek Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 12 hours ago, Mr Gordo said: Surprised the guy still has a publisher. Yeah, I went there. The book deal was signed between the two parties. No reason why they would drop him when they know the book will be an NYT bestseller when it comes out. True, both Gollancz and Bantam would prefer a more speedy process. But them's the breaks. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 His Tumblr had some intersting stuff on Vadran Culture. Something we should learn about in the next book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 16 hours ago, Mr Gordo said: Surprised the guy still has a publisher. Despite the immense gaps between publications, the three extant books still sell tens to hundreds of thousands of copies a year, and The Lies of Locke Lamora by itself has sold over a million copies. Lynch sells more for Gollancz even without having released a book for eight years than probably the bottom 50-70% of their entire list manages (people angrily asking why GRRM's publishers don't drop him don't realise that GRRM sells more than the bottom 98% of their respective lists). The book is constantly recommended on Goodreads and Reddit (helped by being a total stand-alone, of course). Lynch's well-known health issues I think make him also pretty un-droppable without sparking a massive backlash. Tor seem to be still fine with publishing JV Jones's next book when she's been been even longer between books (almost eleven years, probably more than twelve by the time it comes out), and she's not in GRRM's sales category and I doubt is in Lynch's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.T. Phipps Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 I really hope we get more Sabetha. I don't want her and Locke to get back together and for him to understand "no means no" but otherwise I love her. Ser Scot A Ellison 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mr Gordo said: Yeah I was referring to the stuff that has come out about Lynch and his behavior towards woman at conventions in the last oh 10 months or so. I won't reiterate here it's probably not the thread for it and I'm sure you can google but I'm kind surprised no one here seems to be aware of it. It maybe speaks to how much of an echo chamber social media can be no matter how many people you follow but among the SFF folks I follow Lynch is pretty much a four letter word. It had its own thread last year but seemed to fizzle out eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.T. Phipps Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mr Gordo said: Yeah I was referring to the stuff that has come out about Lynch and his behavior towards woman at conventions in the last oh 10 months or so. I won't reiterate here it's probably not the thread for it and I'm sure you can google but I'm kind surprised no one here seems to be aware of it. It maybe speaks to how much of an echo chamber social media can be no matter how many people you follow but among the SFF folks I follow Lynch is pretty much a four letter word. The story I had heard wasn't about Lynch to women in general but one woman, Lynch's wife, and Lynch talking about their relationship on Twitter. It was all very personal and I didn't feel comfortable reading. I think I mentally put it on standby until something more concrete came of it. Edited April 14, 2021 by C.T. Phipps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Mr Gordo said: Yeah I was referring to the stuff that has come out about Lynch and his behavior towards woman at conventions in the last oh 10 months or so. I won't reiterate here it's probably not the thread for it and I'm sure you can google but I'm kind surprised no one here seems to be aware of it. It maybe speaks to how much of an echo chamber social media can be no matter how many people you follow but among the SFF folks I follow Lynch is pretty much a four letter word. It was all between consenting adults and there was no suggestion that there was anything untoward or non-consensual going on beyond that (despite some claims that a 25-year-old is not a responsible adult). There was some additional unsubstantiated gossip attached to that which was best ignored as it was not supported (there was some anonymous claims that more people would come forward with claims, which they never did). It was not in the same league as the other things going on at the same time with Cas Anvar, Sam Sykes and Myke Cole. Starkess, Ser Scot A Ellison and Rhom 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.T. Phipps Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 (edited) Yeah, like I said, was waiting for more information to come out. Thanks for informing me. Edited April 14, 2021 by C.T. Phipps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.T. Phipps Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 No, I'm entirely sincere. Really do appreciate you giving me a heads up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Mr Gordo said: I guess you can believe what you choose to believe, but I certainly saw a lot of people coming forward about his handy behavior at cons. It wasn't even that big a shock in the circles I was in. I am not sure what else you need when multiple people come forward, anonymous or not, about I dude being touchy feely. I'm...somewhat disturbed to see how quick this all got swept under the rig in certain circles, but you know, this is really not the thread for it and if I want to discuss it more I'll start my own or I guess people can PM me, or something. Nobody apart from the original complainant identified themselves, unlike the original complaint which identified times, places and what was going on (and also stating they fully consented to everything that happened) and then both Lynch and Bear gave their version of events confirming what happened. Everything was pretty conflated, it was only the emphasis on intent that differed. I'm not saying everyone involved was as pure as the driven snow and that other complaints were not valid, but given that both authors have picked up "hate" groups over the years who've harassed and attacked them at almost every opportunity, it is very hard to distinguish between genuine complaints, bandwagon-jumping by trolls and the Internet amplifying rumours. IIRC someone did a blog post saying they'd received "major evidence" against a dozen or so other authors and would be making a big announcement and then never did. The whole situation was pretty sleazy and bizarre, and the unverified rumour and insinuation did little to help the situation. If more people come forward and corroborate claims and a pattern of behaviour emerges, as it did with Sykes and Cole and Anvar and Whedon, then I have no doubt that would be come clear very quickly. It's not been swept under the carpet, and it's put people on notice that something unfortunate happened, if the details of whom was the victim and whom was the transgressor are in dispute. If more stuff comes out, this will be remembered. Edited April 14, 2021 by Werthead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.T. Phipps Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 I continue to love Buffy. I just love Buffy for Sarah Michelle Gellar, Marti Noxon, and the OTHER people involved in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garlan the Gallant Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 While this thread is more active...any update on the book at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.T. Phipps Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Its supposedly releasing November 9th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 4 hours ago, C.T. Phipps said: Its supposedly releasing November 9th. Is that from Lynch, Gollancz, or Amazon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 27 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Is that from Lynch, Gollancz, or Amazon? It's not from Lynch or Gollancz, so I'd immediately say disregard it. (worth reiterating again that although Lynch is American, Gollancz is his primary publisher so the US publishers can't get a date until the UK publishers provide a date, and that's not been done so far) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 16 minutes ago, Werthead said: It's not from Lynch or Gollancz, so I'd immediately say disregard it. (worth reiterating again that although Lynch is American, Gollancz is his primary publisher so the US publishers can't get a date until the UK publishers provide a date, and that's not been done so far) That’s what I was afraid of... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Patrek Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 The minute they reach the copy edit stage, we'll get a pub date for sure. But the prolonged radio silence from everyone involved has me concerned that it may be a while yet. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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