balazs Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 With a living dragon in the east and a resurrected Targaryan north of the wall, do you think the SOIAF is over, it just the beginning of a new cycle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jon Snow Stark Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 7 hours ago, balazs said: With a living dragon in the east and a resurrected Targaryan north of the wall, do you think the SOIAF is over, it just the beginning of a new cycle? Its a new cycle. If Jon really left with the Free Folk he will have children. Eventually one of those children will find a Dragon and then they will go south to kill their cousins. The cycle would only end if Jon keeps his vows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaapstad Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 I don’t think Jon marries. The Targaryen line is ending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerevanin Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 new cycle, although imo not necessarily with Targaeryens, more like with the whole organizational structure of Westeros. Although the wheel seems to be broken, it's not really, it's just temporarily stopped but in some 50-100 years it starts spinning again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFL Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Depends what cycle exactly you mean. That wheel is going to turn - some of the names (Targaryn) might be replaced or moved but as long as there is more than one person that wheel will turn even if its families fighting among themselves. Maybe the kingdom breaks up and the wheels get smaller as each kingdom fights its own battles but that wheel is turning and that is the lessen of this. View Dany as black, white, or grey her roll, along with everyone else's, was to tell the story about the wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martianmister Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 New cycle. Targaryen progeny will rise in the north as the Kings beyond the Wall, Little Council with "little men" will eventually be a center of corruption, Drogon will return, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zumbs Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 The wheel is definitely not broken. Using a Council of the Realm, consisting of the most powerful men in the realm, to elect the next king was quite common in Europe (and probably other places as well). It neither prevented nasty oppression of common people, nor did it prevent various alliances of rulers to fight long and nasty civil wars to determine succession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYShh Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 The cycle is ended when Jon denied Dany's offer to be with her, he choose duty and honor over love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jon Snow Stark Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, Zumbs said: The wheel is definitely not broken. Using a Council of the Realm, consisting of the most powerful men in the realm, to elect the next king was quite common in Europe (and probably other places as well). It neither prevented nasty oppression of common people, nor did it prevent various alliances of rulers to fight long and nasty civil wars to determine succession. Do you think they will end up with constitutional monarchies like Europe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zumbs Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Maybe in 500-1000 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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