Which Tyler Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 14 minutes ago, SeanF said: Conservatives should either be listed as pro-Brexit, or pro-Deal Brexit. They are. But neither lab or cin are remotely close enough to united on the issue to be worth counting. They're also the most likely (alongside Green) to be getting voters on things other than Brexit, hence I hadn't been counting either party earlier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, Which Tyler said: That doesn't really seem like a huge change It used to be highest in the South West and Home Counties (back in the 2000's). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philokles Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 More MEPs called Alexandra Phillips in the South East than Tories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Which Tyler Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, SeanF said: It used to be highest in the South West and Home Counties (back in the 2000's). I don't remember any vote taking place on pro or anti brexit in the 2000s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 CHUK won't win a seat now. South East is TBP 4, Lib Dem 3, Lab 1, Con 1, Green 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 Just now, Which Tyler said: I don't remember any vote taking place on pro or anti brexit in the 2000s I meant the UKIP vote in those days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Which Tyler Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 1 minute ago, SeanF said: I meant the UKIP vote in those days. Whichwas still utterly irrelevant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 This is brilliant. Remind you of anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 North West TBP 3, Lab 2, Lib Dem 2, Green 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamjm Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, Philokles said: More MEPs called Alexandra Phillips in the South East than Tories There will also be more pandas in Scotland than Tory or Labour MEPs. The Tories are also behind both Brexit and Lib Dems in Theresa May's constituency while Labour are behind the Lib Dems in Corbyn's constituency. Is this the first time the Lib Dems have ever come first in London in an election? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Which Tyler Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 356/373 Brx: 31.6% LD: 20.3% Lab: 14.1% Grn: 12.1% Con: 9.1% SNP+PC: 4.6% Leave: 5.8M Remain: 6.7M MEPs (waiting for Scotland & NI), 2014 => 2019 Farage's ego, 23 => 28 Lib Dem, 1 => 15 Labour, 18 => 10 Green, 3 => 7 Conservative, 18 => 3 Plaid, 1 => 1 9 to be declared Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljkeane Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 Yeah, I think we’re fucked. The lesson the Conservatives are going to take from this is that they need to take a harder line on Brexit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophelia Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 1 hour ago, ljkeane said: Yeah, I think we’re fucked. The lesson the Conservatives are going to take from this is that they need to take a harder line on Brexit. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 I think the lesson labour need to learn is that sitting on the fence hasnt done then any favours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loge Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 1 hour ago, ljkeane said: Yeah, I think we’re fucked. The lesson the Conservatives are going to take from this is that they need to take a harder line on Brexit. Is it? Brexit party got the most votes but still fewer than 1/3. Not exactly an overwhelming vote in favour of a hard Brexit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 I think the next few days will be dominated by arguments over the interpretation of the maths of the results.. mostly getting nobody anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Which Tyler Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 32 minutes ago, Heartofice said: I think the next few days will be dominated by arguments over the interpretation of the maths of the results.. mostly getting nobody anywhere. In politically informed circles? Almost certainly. In the forum of public opinion, Farage has just won a landslide anyine looking for nuance is banging their head against the wall. 6.0M people sign a petition to revoke art50 "nothing to see here" 6.7M vote for parties of RevoteOrRevoke "ooh, that's interesting. Quiet now, we have to talk to Marc Francois" 5.8M people vote Brexit "We MUST be given a seat at the negotiations that aren't happening" "This is a huge victory for WTO terms" etc etc Anyone pointing out that Farage gained half of his predicted 10-12% swing "Shush now, that doesn't fit the narrative" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 12 minutes ago, Which Tyler said: In politically informed circles? Almost certainly. In the forum of public opinion, Farage has just won a landslide anyine looking for nuance is banging their head against the wall. I think the only thing it really shows is just how divided the country is on this and probably many other issues. Just looking at the map of the results you see almost the entirety of England Wales painted in Brexit colours except for London and parts of the south east. Similar to It's a pretty good illustration of the divide. Nothing much really seems to have changed since the referendum, despite the calamitous events of the past couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Which Tyler Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 Yup. Cognitive dissonance on a national scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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