The Dragon Demands Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Conleth Hill table read reaction to Varys death (Last Watch video clip) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodor the Articulate Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 He is all of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurane Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Ouch, I've never thought of Hill's viewpoint on the series before. It would really suck to get the role for one of the most important villains in the books only to get shafted halfway through with your character's most important moment being giving Tyrion a lift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticWeirwood Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 8 hours ago, Aurane said: Ouch, I've never thought of Hill's viewpoint on the series before. It would really suck to get the role for one of the most important villains in the books only to get shafted halfway through with your character's most important moment being giving Tyrion a lift. Villain? Varys is a villain? News to me! Always seemed like he was subtly the opposite of villain to me, someone who overcame adversity to rise high, what with his background story of being castrated and so horribly as a young boy, plus all that followed. Those are exactly the people Martin picks for elevation in his tale, not for making villains out of. Remember cripples, bastards, and broken things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetsunray Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 2 hours ago, CrypticWeirwood said: Villain? Varys is a villain? News to me! Always seemed like he was subtly the opposite of villain to me, someone who overcame adversity to rise high, what with his background story of being castrated and so horribly as a young boy, plus all that followed. Those are exactly the people Martin picks for elevation in his tale, not for making villains out of. Remember cripples, bastards, and broken things? Nevertheless, Ned damned Varys. Not a one he damns in his cell will survive the series. And Varys is a villain for being a warmongerer when it suits him to get his own Targ candidate on the throne and support and prop liars in order to have reviled antagonists for his "chosen one" in the earlier seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Pesci Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Show's over. Move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehandwipes Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 23 hours ago, CrypticWeirwood said: Villain? Varys is a villain? News to me! Always seemed like he was subtly the opposite of villain to me, someone who overcame adversity to rise high, what with his background story of being castrated and so horribly as a young boy, plus all that followed. Those are exactly the people Martin picks for elevation in his tale, not for making villains out of. Remember cripples, bastards, and broken things? People are way too forgiving of Varys. He rips out children's tongue's so they can better serve as his spies. That's not morally grey, that is some dark shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticWeirwood Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 42 minutes ago, thehandwipes said: People are way too forgiving of Varys. He rips out children's tongue's so they can better serve as his spies. That's not morally grey, that is some dark shit. What the textual evidence for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehandwipes Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 28 minutes ago, CrypticWeirwood said: What the textual evidence for that? Seriously? Quote Varys: I must have gold, and another fifty birds. Illyrio: So many? The ones you need are hard to find... so young, to know their letters... perhaps older... not die so easy... Varys: No. The younger are safer... treat them gently... Illyrio: ...if they kept their tongues... Varys: ...the risk... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Baelish Mockingbird Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 On 5/29/2019 at 7:10 PM, Aurane said: only to get shafted halfway through with your character's most important moment being giving Tyrion a lift. Varys has nothing on Selmy in that department. Man had his entire story arc cut out just to hurry Tyrion's role in Dany's story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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