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9 minutes ago, Areisius said:

In the books he did nothing to her because it wasn't her story and in the show not anything close to the multiple rapes and beatings Dany took from Drogo and Viserys when she was just a child. Get the fuck out of here with how Sansa had it so hard bullshit!

 

Remember times when the Hound to saved Sansa from being raped and tired to save her from what was going to happened to her by Joffrey and Ramsey but she refused him because she was set on becoming a queen and sealed her own fate. Sansa had somebody to protect her and even had a way out. Dany had neither.   

You clearly have no idea what happened in the show. I suggest you to follow better before trying to mock with other people's posts. Drogo never beat her, he raped her after they get married, and then Daenerys fall in love with Drogo anyway. Viserys tried to beat Daenerys twice, in one time Daenerys's Dothraki bodyguard stopped Viserys and almost choked him, and in another Daenerys hit Viserys back and stopped him. Who stopped Joffrey from beating Sansa? No one until Tyrion interferred and before that there was no Tyrion anyway. As for Ramsay, he cut Sansa's body except her face, that's something Daenerys has never experienced, so yeah; Sansa > Daenerys.

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On 6/11/2019 at 3:29 PM, Kaapstad said:

1. She saw her own father get beheaded with her own family's swords

2. She was forced to watch her Septa,her father,and the head of her father’s guards's head on a spike and she was slapped by Trant so hard that her lip got cut

3. She was forced to constantly belittle her own family,watch her father and brother get insulted by the others and stay silent. Arya and Dany would have never done this and gotten themselves killed  

4. Cersei mocks her by saying "Even if Joffrey kills Robb, Sansa will do her duty and produce an heir for Joffrey". She cant say anything. She was also forced to marry into a family who had killed her father.

5. She was forced to hear the brutal news that her brother was murdered and then his direwolf's head was mounted on his body and her mother's naked body thrown in the river with zero respect and if that wasn't enough Joffrey enacted a play in which Robb is shown with a direwolf head sewed onto his body and Joffrey knocks it off and he pretends to fuck the direwolf mask. She was also forced to watch her family's sword being forged into 2 new swords, one for Joffrey(the one who killed her father) who said he wishes he could cut off Ned Stark's head again with it

6. She was half stripped,punched and beaten in front of an entire court and would have been stripped completely naked and brutalised had Tyrion not showed up.

7. She was asked uncomfortable questions about her virginity,examined by a brothel keeper which is a personal matter and forced to be sexually assaulted by Baelish, her father's betrayer multiple times by kissing her on the lips and the face. She allowed it as she was weak and frightened and powerless and did not have multiple dragons to burn her enemies at her command

8. She was forced to marry her brother's murderer and she was forced to deal with the trauma of being raped by his murderer in front of Theon who at that moment,to her was responsible for killing Bran and Rickon. Being raped by a member of a family who killed Robb and her mother and being forced to understand that she was being watched being raped  by another betrayer who to her had murdered 2 of her brothers. It’s a miracle she maintained her sanity here and not commit suicide  

9. She was beaten black and blue by Ramsay,flayed, forced to endure his torment and stay locked up in a dark room. She was being treated inhumanly and was crying in the bed alone when Theon arrived and she was forced to ask for his help when at that time she thought he had killed her brothers, just because he was the lesser evil than Ramsay.

Theres more but I can tell you one thing though, take away Dany's dragons and put her in any of Sansa's situations and she wouldn't last a day with her loud mouth. Sansa is also the only character who did not have much of a guardian angel by her side in her suffering. Dany had Jorah. Arya still had Gendry and the Hound and the Brotherhood. Bran had Osha and Hodor and Meera. She is the only character who had to survive in the midst of enemies all on her own besides a few helpful instances from Tyrion and the Hound

The best developed character in the series, dare I say even more than Jon. Robb and her parents would be proud. 

Sansa can't hold a candle to what Dany has been through.

1. Verbally and physically abused by her own brother throughout her childhood. 

2, Raped multiple times by Khal Drogo when she was 13.

3. Impregnated by Khal Drogo when she is still a child.

4. Loses her child.

5. She is forced to kill Khal Drogo after he went brain dead.

6. Has multiple assassination attempts on her. 

7. Has multiple close friends murdered while in Essos.

8. Is betrayed by her own friends.

9. She goes through dehydration and starvation while being stranded far away from Meereen for days.

10. She is captured by Moro and he threatens to have her raped by each of the khals, then by all of their bloodriders, and then, if she is still alive, by their horses.

11. She loses 2 of her dragons.

12. She watches Jorah get slashed stabbed to death.

13. She watches her best friend Missandei get decapitated. 

 

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On 6/11/2019 at 9:22 PM, John Meta said:

I honestly cannot decipher what it is you're trying to say here.

That doesn't surprise me. You have no answer to my statement because your nonsense statements have no ground to stand on.

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24 minutes ago, RYShh said:

You clearly have no idea what happened in the show. I suggest you to follow better before trying to mock with other people's posts. Drogo never beat her, he raped her after they get married, and then Daenerys fall in love with Drogo anyway. Viserys tried to beat Daenerys twice, in one time Daenerys's Dothraki bodyguard stopped Viserys and almost choked him, and in another Daenerys hit Viserys back and stopped him. Who stopped Joffrey from beating Sansa? No one until Tyrion interferred and before that there was no Tyrion anyway. As for Ramsay, he cut Sansa's body except her face, that's something Daenerys has never experienced, so yeah; Sansa > Daenerys.

I know Drogon never beat her but he did rape her when she was a child and Viserys did beat her. You just can't compare Sansa to Dany in the show and most certainly not in the books because nothing tragic happened to her in the books. That why you keep bringing up Ramsey because without D&D adding him to Sansa's story you would have no sob story for Sansa. 

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7 minutes ago, Areisius said:

I know Drogon never beat her but he did rape her when she was a child and Viserys did beat her. You just can't compare Sansa to Dany in the show and most certainly not in the books because nothing tragic happened to her in the books. That why you keep bringing up Ramsey because without D&D adding him to Sansa's story you would have no sob story for Sansa. 

It's Drogo, not Drogon. Drogo and Daenerys were married and Dothraki culture is different when it comes to that it's not even rape for Drogo probably, then she managed to deal with that Dothraki culture. This is not comparable to Joffrey's behaviors at all, showing Sansa Ned Stark's head, and other kind of things he did to her. This is show forum you're talking about the books, there are many things happened differently in the books, this is not the place right? As I said, even Drogo isn't comparable to Joffrey, and all we know Viserys ''tried'' to beat Daenerys twice in the show and he failed twice, that's all we know. Joffrey never failed at it. Also it's Ramsay, not Ramsey. As I said, nothing compares to Ramsay cutting Sansa's body, it seems you don't understand this simple fact so I need to repeat it for you.

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43 minutes ago, Areisius said:

Sansa can't hold a candle to what Dany has been through.

1. Verbally and physically abused by her own brother throughout her childhood. 

2, Raped multiple times by Khal Drogo when she was 13.

3. Impregnated by Khal Drogo when she is still a child.

4. Loses her child.

5. She is forced to kill Khal Drogo after he went brain dead.

6. Has multiple assassination attempts on her. 

7. Has multiple close friends murdered while in Essos.

8. Is betrayed by her own friends.

9. She goes through dehydration and starvation while being stranded far away from Meereen for days.

10. She is captured by Moro and he threatens to have her raped by each of the khals, then by all of their bloodriders, and then, if she is still alive, by their horses.

11. She loses 2 of her dragons.

12. She watches Jorah get slashed stabbed to death.

13. She watches her best friend Missandei get decapitated. 

 

1. And how long was Sansa tortured for in Kings Landing by Cersei and Joffrey. Certainly the verbal torture she had to endure more then compensates for the physical ones Dany suffered. And if you really want to get physical, Ramsay cut and flayed Sansa in various places. Sansa said he did whatever he liked to to the rest of her body. He just left her face intact. As bad as Viserys may be, he doesn't hold a candle to Ramsay. And again let me tell you Dany was brought up in a way that she was used to this. Sansa was used to a life as a princess, had it taken away, was beaten and assaulted and almost raped by the crowd at KL

2.Ramsay also raped Sansa multiple times and its actually worse than Drogo. Ramsay's family murdered Sansa's brother. She was forcibly made to understand that the one of the traitors to her family was watching her naked being brutally raped by another traitor to her family. The humiliation here is incomprehensible. Then like some broodmare she was locked up in a dark room where she spent the entire day crying.

And to dissuade her attempts to escape, Ramsay peeled the entire skin of an old woman who was her friend and showed her naked body strapped to a cross. He also kissed her on the lips and on the cheek multiple times. Every time he kissed her, Sansa makes a grimace like his kisses are like hot iron to her flesh

3. She had already fallen in love with Drogo by that point. She was enjoying it. She tells her brother "I carry the son of Drogo inside me and you will not lift a hand on me and if you do, I will ensure its the last time you have hands". If Viserys was as bad as you say he was why was Dany showed to care for him by making him a Dothraki uniform and a feast? She loved Drogo, her so called rapist over her own brother. She also doesn't show any expression of sadness, happiness or any emotion at all as the last Targaryen other than herself is brutally killed with molten gold while she says "He wasn't a true dragon"

4. Its her own fault. The Khal Drogo she married had raped and destroyed the village and the family of the witch who offered to help her. Why would that witch want to save Drogo? She would want him dead. Dany was stupid to use her as she lacked common sense which is why she also lost her child. She forgets what about the family of that witch which Drogo murdered? And she burns that witch in a pyre instead of killing her swiftly.

5. Not multiple. Only one iirc and that too was stopped by Jorah. And really this does not compare to the humiliating treatement Sansa was being subject to by Joffrey and Littlefinger. Sansa has been literally told, her brother was killed, his direwolf's head sewed onto his body and Joffrey enacted a play in which he shows Robb with that direwolf head while he pretends to fuck him from behind. This is savagery. Give me a quick assassination attempt any day over living with Joffrey and Ramsay

6. Sansa has to stay in Kings Landing while each and every member of her family is being murdered, the news reaches her, Joffrey acts in glee about it, she has to pretend to be happy to his face and tell him "I am glad my traitor father is dead". At her wedding to Tyrion, she is forced at being escorted by Joffrey who tells her to her face "Since I killed your traitor father and since you have no one among your family left to give you away, I being king will do it". He does that and when she reaches Tyrion, Joffrey purposely removes the stool they had kept for Tyrion which he was going to use to cover her. She is forced to sit down so that Tyrion can do it. That is in front of the entire world. Watching your own beloved family being killed one after the other is infinitely sadder than watching your own friends be killed. Friends who she barely knew by the way.

7. Dany at least knew that even if Khal Moro had not listened, Daario and Jorah would be out looking for her and she had Drogon and her 2 dragons to destroy everyone. Her torture would be ending eventually. When Sansa came to Jon, Ramsay wrote a letter saying he would ride to the Nights Watch with his superior army and kill and skin alive all the wildlings, then he would capture Jon and force him to watch while every one of his soldiers rapes Sansa and then force both Sansa and Jon to watch while the dogs devour Rickon and then spoon Jon's eyes from the sockets. Sansa did not have any guardian angels other than Jon at that moment

8. I will only say this to your points about her loved ones getting killed. At least they died in a sane way and were not given prolonged torture. Ned was publically shamed in front of a crowd while she was forced to watch him being killed. She was forced to look at his severed head on a spike and then slapped brutally. She was forced to belittle her own family. She was forced to hear Robb's gruesome and sadistic death. She was forced to hear the news that her mother's neck was cut to the bone and thrown from the tower naked into a river. She also lost Rickon.Do Dany's losses compare to this?

 

 

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Does it matter who had it worse?  Both Dany and Sansa had pretty awful lives.

The only major distinction between them is that Sansa won, and Dany lost.

 

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On 6/12/2019 at 7:51 PM, RYShh said:

According to you it is. He has no reason to lie to Tyrion, they were good friends.

Anyways Andal and Royal Targaryen inheritance laws states that the first son's children > younger sons and daughters. Especially when they choose Jon as a bastard over trueborn daughter Sansa in the North. Let alone a trueborn Targaryen male, and the first son's children. Daenerys is simply a usurper.

Varys was a shit, who repeatedly betrayed the person who had pardoned him for trying to poison her and her unborn child, and finished up trying to poison her again.  Anything he says needs to be seen in that light. 

In the end, he got off a lot more lightly than he deserved.

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13 minutes ago, SeanF said:

Varys was a poisoning shit.  

In the end, he got off a lot more lightly than he deserved.

Who arranged the Dorne and Olenna Tyrell alliance to Daenerys? He was good until Daenerys started to burn people alive like her father did. Varys had no energy left to serve another Aerys. The point in that message is he had no reason to lie Tyrion, and Tyrion didn't disagree with the fact that the first son's children come before the second son or daughter.

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4 minutes ago, RYShh said:

Who arranged the Dorne and Olenna Tyrell alliance to Daenerys? He was good until Daenerys started to burn people alive like his father did. Varys had no energy left to serve another Aerys. The point in that message is he had no reason to lie Tyrion, and Tyrion didn't disagree with the fact that the first son's children come before the second and third children.

Since Jon had no interest in kingship, the point is moot.

WRT the Tarlys, let's try the test of opposites.  Suppose they took Dany prisoner, do you think they'd act as she did towards them, and give her the chance bend the knee, and live out the rest of her days in comfort, or a quick death if she refused?

She'd have been given the same nightmare of torture as Ellaria Sand.

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Just now, SeanF said:

Since Jon had no interest in kingship, the point is moot.

WRT the Tarlys, let's try the test of opposites.  Suppose they took Dany prisoner, do you think they'd act as she did, and give her the chance bend the knee, and live out the rest of her days in comfort, or a quick death if she refused?

She'd have been given the same nightmare of torture as Ellaria Sand.

Jon didn't want to be the KitN, it doesn't matter what he wants, it's also what people want over Daenerys, just like they wanted Jon over Sansa even when Jon was a bastard, it's not moot at all, that's just what you want to believe.

Daenerys went mad when she sees Missandei's severed head, on the other hand she burns her prisoners alive and she was just fine with that and then she expects Cersei to show mercy to her prisoners. Hypocrisy nothing more. 

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1 hour ago, Areisius said:

You just can't compare Sansa to Dany in the show and most certainly not in the books because nothing tragic happened to her in the books. 

This is complete nonsense and you know it, which makes you an untrustworthy interlocutor. 

The queen making the king make her father murder her innocent wolf Lady was tragic.

Being forced to watch her father's head cut off was tragic.

Being held prisoner by her family's murderers was tragic.

Being forced to marry into that family was tragic.

Being forced to masquerade as the daughter of the man responsible for her family's downfall was tragic. 

Being forced to watch her aunt's murder was tragic.

All this is just the tip of the iceberg. Tragedy has stalked Sansa's entire journey, striking early, often, and brutally. 

To pretend "nothing tragic ever happened to Sansa" is so obviously wrong at face value as to destroy its proponents' credibility completely.

Let them walk her path themselves and see how tragic they think it feels being on the receiving end of all that trauma and abuse.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, CrypticWeirwood said:

This is complete nonsense and you know it, which makes you an untrustworthy interlocutor. 

The queen making the king make her father murder her innocent wolf Lady was tragic.

Being forced to watch her father's head cut off was tragic.

Being held prisoner by her family's murderers was tragic.

Being forced to marry into that family was tragic.

Being forced to masquerade as the daughter of the man responsible for her family's downfall was tragic. 

Being forced to watch her aunt's murder was tragic.

All this is just the tip of the iceberg. Tragedy has stalked Sansa's entire journey, striking early, often, and brutally. 

To pretend "nothing tragic ever happened to Sansa" is so obviously wrong at face value as to destroy its proponents' credibility completely.

Let them walk her path themselves and see how tragic they think it feels being on the receiving end of all that trauma and abuse.

 

 

Not to mention once she got her dragons, Dany started using them like guns. She threatens the Spice King with her Dragons. Then when she gets to Astapor, she pretends to give him her dragon. When he holds the dragon, she commands it to burn him. Then we get to Yunkai. She invites one of the slave masters for negotiating a surrender. When he arrives, she purposely sits with all 3 dragons besides her and since she wants to scare him, she tosses a piece of meat into the air which her dragons fight over and he is shown to be scared and she enjoys this. Then she tells him "I may have given you a promise of safe conduct, but my dragons didn't and they will kill anyone who threatens their mother"

Sansa never had a single victory streak like this right from Season 1 till Season 6 when she reunites with Jon. Its only since then that she feels secure by his presence and then she uses her brain to start winning battles.

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28 minutes ago, RYShh said:

Jon didn't want to be the KitN, it doesn't matter what he wants, it's also what people want over Daenerys, just like they wanted Jon over Sansa even when Jon was a bastard, it's not moot at all, that's just what you want to believe.

Daenerys went mad when she sees Missandei's severed head, on the other hand she burns her prisoners alive and she was just fine with that and then she expects Cersei to show mercy to her prisoners. Hypocrisy nothing more. 

Leaving aside the the whole plot contrivance of a secret anullment and secret marriage, if Jon revokes his claim to the IT, no one has a better claim than Dany.  In the same way, at least 13 people had a better claim to the Throne than Henry Tudor, but no one pressed their claim after Bosworth and Stoke.

WRT the prisoners, the distinction is that Dany gave her prisoners the chance to bend the knee and save their lives.  Cersei didn't give them that chance.  Dany's behaviour was SOP for a monarch in a medieval setting, even if it violates modern human rights laws.

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1 minute ago, SeanF said:

Leaving aside the the whole plot contrivance of a secret anullment and secret marriage, if Jon revokes his claim to the IT, no one has a better claim than Dany.  In the same way, at least 13 people had a better claim to the Throne than Henry Tudor, but no one pressed their claim after Bosworth and Stoke.

WRT the prisoners, the distinction is that Dany gave her prisoners the chance to bend the knee and save their lives.  Cersei didn't give them that chance.  Dany's behaviour was SOP for a monarch in a medieval setting, even if it violates modern human rights laws.

It's not a matter of who has a better claim (Jon has but nevermind) it's a matter of what Lords of Westeros wants, they don't even want Daenerys. She is raised in Essos and she brought a foreigner army into Westeros. And they would want Jon. It's like they are the opposites. In these circumstances, she knew they don't want her, and they would want Jon. You're giving examples from out of GoT universe, that's irrelevant. People literally choose Jon over Sansa even when Jon was a bastard. Even without the annulment they would still choose Jon again over Daenerys, especially while they don't even love Daenerys, and even when the Northmen actually had no problem with Sansa. Daenerys had no chance against Jon's claim. She couldn't even fight it, which is why she admitted that she has no love in Westeros and she started to burn his own advisors and betrayed by her own advisors, if Varys and Tyrion (Daenerys's advisors) chooses Jon, what do you think other Lords of Westeros would do? She was doomed.

Missandei would never bent the knee, and she is foreigner why would Cersei needs her to bend the knee anyway? Your answer make no sense. And you're giving out of GoT universe example again, Robb Stark didn't execute prisoners not even Tywin Lannister at Harrenhal and when he learned they are killing prisoners because they don't have left empty cells for prisoners, he found another way and used them as workers so they can stop killing the prisoners. That's the only example you need, Daenerys was even worse than ''evil'' Tywin Lannister, it's amazing that you're still defending Daenerys after all the things she has done.

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18 minutes ago, RYShh said:

It's not a matter of who has a better claim (Jon has but nevermind) it's a matter of what Lords of Westeros wants, they don't even want Daenerys. She is raised in Essos and she brought a foreigner army into Westeros. And they would want Jon. It's like they are the opposites. In these circumstances, she knew they don't want her, and they would want Jon. You're giving examples from out of GoT universe, that's irrelevant. People literally choose Jon over Sansa even when Jon was a bastard. Even without the annulment they would still choose Jon again over Daenerys, especially while they don't even love Daenerys, and even when the Northmen actually had no problem with Sansa. Daenerys had no chance against Jon's claim. She couldn't even fight it, which is why she admitted that she has no love in Westeros and she started to burn his own advisors and betrayed by her own advisors, if Varys and Tyrion (Daenerys's advisors) chooses Jon, what do you think other Lords of Westeros would do? She was doomed.

Missandei would never bent the knee, and she is foreigner why would Cersei needs her to bend the knee anyway? Your answer make no sense. And you're giving out of GoT universe example again, Robb Stark didn't execute prisoners not even Tywin Lannister at Harrenhal and when he learned they are killing prisoners because they don't have left empty cells for prisoners, he found another way and used them as workers so they can stop killing the prisoners. That's the only example you need, Daenerys was even worse than ''evil'' Tywin Lannister, it's amazing that you're still defending Daenerys after all the things she has done.

Since the tale is strongly inspired by the Wars of the Roses, it is very far from irrelevant to bring in examples from it.  I'm trying to judge the characters by the standards of a medieval kind of world, not by the standards of the European Court of Human Rights in 2019.

Robb kept his prisoners in cages.  Tywin worked them as slaves.  Dany offered them a better deal than that.

Neither Tyrion nor Varys have any business choosing Jon.  Once you've picked your chief, you stay loyal to her.

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Just now, SeanF said:

Since the tale is strongly inspired by the Wars of the Roses, it is very far from irrelevant to bring in examples from it.  I'm trying to judge the characters by the standards of a medieval kind of world, not by the standards of the European Court of Human Rights in 2019.

Robb kept his prisoners in cages.  Tywin worked them as slaves.  Dany offered them a better deal than that.

Inspiration is one thing, using it as an evidence is another, that's what you're doing in order to defend Daenerys, which makes no sense. According to Grrm, the North is Scotland so the Yorke family must be from Scotland only, but they were not. Do you see why doesn't make sense?

Tywin asked why prisoners were not in their cells, if they had enough cell he wouldn't use them as worker and he would put them into their cells. That's the point. Even he was taking prisoners. Even Tywin.

Tywin saved their lives by using them as workers, that's not slavery and there is no slavery in Westeros anyway, what you say make no sense again. Tywin wasn't asking them to bend the knee or die. Daenerys offered nothing but bending the knee, that's exactly like not taking prisoners. Which is why even Tyrion (her own hand) disagreed with her.

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I wonder how this Dany vs Sansa suffering debate would go if the show stayed true to the books.

Like if they kept Sansa snitching on Ned to Cersei, kept all her bullying of Arya and Jon, and didn’t have her interact with Ramsay. 

Of if they kept Book Dany’s personality and her red door dreams, or how she views the IT more as an obligation than a right.

Idk it’s weird to me when people say “Sansa suffered so much she deserves her happy ending” when the worst thing that happened to her isn’t canon. 

The real Sansa Stark will end up living happily ever after as Queen of something, even though she never met Ramsay.

Tho to be fair, I don’t view Sansa feeding Ramsay to dogs as canon or Arya mass murdering the Frey’s, so it’s weird when that gets brought up in defense of Dany’s bells fiasco. 

Also literally every main character was in a situation only they could survive. Dany would die in Sansa’s position, and Sansa would die in Dany’s.

 

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2 minutes ago, RYShh said:

Inspiration is one thing, using it as an evidence is another, that's what you're doing in order to defend Daenerys, which makes no sense. According to Grrm, the North is Scotland so the Yorke family must be from Scotland only, but they were not. Do you see why doesn't make sense?

Tywin asked why prisoners were not in their cells, if they had enough cell he wouldn't use them as worker and he would put them into their cells. That's the point. Even he was taking prisoners. Even Tywin.

Tywin saved their lives by using them as workers, that's not slavery and there is no slavery in Westeros anyway, what you say make no sense again. Tywin wasn't asking them to bend the knee or die. Daenerys offered nothing but bending the knee, that's exactly like not taking prisoners. Which is why even Tyrion (her own hand) disagreed with her.

It makes sense to judge people in the story by medieval military standards, not according to modern human rights laws.  If we are to do the latter, then no major character emerges from this story with clean hands.

But, look at the record, in-universe.  Aegon the Conqueror and his sisters:  bend the knee and keep your lands, or resist and die. Jaehaerys I to the Faith, bend the knee and keep your privileges, or resist and die.  Viserys I - keep your mouths shut, or spread rumours about my daughter, and lose your tongues;  Rhaenyra and Aegon II bend the knee, or resist and die.  Creggan Stark - confess your treason and take the Black;  refuse and die.   Bloodraven to the Blackfyre supporters;  bend the knee or resist and die.  Tywin Lannister to the Reynes and Tarbecks;  they don't even get the chance to bend the knee.  They get wiped off the face of the earth.

Dany took prisoners.  All the Lannisters surrendered after they saw what happened to the Tarlys when they defied her.  They weren't butchered on the spot.  She offered Tarly the chance to remain Lord Paramount.  She wasn't even interested in Dickon until he talked himself into getting killed.

  

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9 minutes ago, SeanF said:

It makes sense to judge people in the story by medieval military standards, not according to modern human rights laws.  If we are to do the latter, then no major character emerges from this story with clean hands.

But, look at the record, in-universe.  Aegon the Conqueror and his sisters:  bend the knee and keep your lands, or resist and die. Jaehaerys I to the Faith, bend the knee and keep your privileges, or resist and die.  Viserys I - keep your mouths shut, or spread rumours about my daughter, and lose your tongues;  Rhaenyra and Aegon II bend the knee, or resist and die.  Creggan Stark - confess your treason and take the Black;  refuse and die.   Bloodraven to the Blackfyre supporters;  bend the knee or resist and die.  Tywin Lannister to the Reynes and Tarbecks;  they don't even get the chance to bend the knee.  They get wiped off the face of the earth.

Dany took prisoners.  All the Lannisters surrendered after they saw what happened to the Tarlys when they defied her.  They weren't butchered on the spot.  She offered Tarly the chance to remain Lord Paramount.  She wasn't even interested in Dickon until he talked himself into getting killed.

  

We don't know what they did with the prisoners or not in Aegon's era, even then once the kings bend the knee lords and soldiers follow. Aegon's example isn't suitable for this, if Cersei bends the knee then Randyll would follow. Randyll didn't bend the knee because he still had a queen (which is Cersei) as he said, he is a soldier, he follows or he dies. What Daenerys did is stupid, which is why Tyrion disagreed. She expects them to bend the knee before they defeat Cersei. First she needed to defeat Cersei, and then expect others to bend the knee, that's what you failed to separate.

Daenerys took no prisoners, she already said that;

Tyrion: ''Your Grace, nothing scrubs bold notions from a man's head like a few weeks in a dark cell.'' 

Daenerys: ''I meant what I said. I'm not here to put men in chains. If that becomes an option, many will take it.'' (S07E05)

Her reasoning is ''if that's an option, others will take it as well'', she basically wanted to rule them by fear. It's not saving the people from tyrant Cersei, Daenerys was also a tyrant, and she could go far enough to burn million people for it, which means she was even worse than Tywin and Cersei.

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