Anthony Appleyard Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 If someone wants to write GoT scenario fan fiction, and involve mages in the story, he would need to get the magical abilities of GoT mages reasonably correct. Likely, some people who have read the Harry Potter series, would rely on it for such information, and it would easy for those people thus to get the abilities of mages wrong for the WoIaF / GoT scenario. I have read through the book "A Game of Thrones", and I found in it not much about what mages could do. Is there any argument for or against GoT mages being able to do these:- (1) Cast a stun spell, on one person, or on a whole crowd? (2) If the mage is near someone who is speaking, to detect if the speaker is lying? (Whether or not "the truth" means "what the speaker believes to be true".) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGuv19 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 There may be instances of Melisandre being able to do the second one, but i have read all the books and i dont recall anyone stunning someone. Firemages also exist, and can control flames. How powerful mages are also seems to stem from dragons and how many there are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Appleyard Posted July 16, 2019 Author Share Posted July 16, 2019 It is to be wondered what maesters know and choose not to reveal. It is possible to imagine a maester at a private meeting saying "For example, there are four things, that the world knows of, separately, varied things: That amber if rubbed, picks up fluff and bits. The lightning that comes with rain, and farmers hard-pressed by drought are thankful to see it and to hear its thunder. The lodestone that tells sailors where north is, for when bad weather hides the sun and moon and stars. And the strange flat fish of the far-away Summer Sea that defends itself by causing violent painful muscle cramps in any fisherman who picks it up, and some have died of it. But between these four there is a link that we do not reveal. It is to be feared that if that comes out, we and kings would not be able to control what can be made or done using it.". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The hairy bear Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 If someone wants to write fan fiction, GoT is a very bad choice as a setting. Because it deals with magic as a scarcely, in a low-key fashion, without delving into it. And because George R. R. Martin explicitly asks to his fans no to write fan fiction using his world and characters. Btw, fan fiction is also forbidden in this forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loge Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 Magic in ASOIAF is not at all like Dungeons and Dragons or Harry Potter. It's scary and usually comes at a cost, like blood or even human sacrifice. You don't just cast a spell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hnv Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Magic in Planetos is more similar to LoTR than D&D, it's mental to a degree and requires some connection to praxis and the intrinsic properties of the world (blood, fire, ice, the earth, animals). Magic could be speculated to be a physical phenomena that supervenes from the world itself where some users manage to tap into it. Warging, future sight all seems to be some genetic mutation, and other magic requires physical elements. In that sense magic is a material phenomena, walking around with a stick shouting bizarre words to master the natural would have no effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Appleyard Posted July 28, 2019 Author Share Posted July 28, 2019 How does WoIaF / GoT mage magic compare with magic as depicted in some other fictional scenarios?:- - Tolkien (The Hobbit, Lord of the Rings) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Weirdstone_of_Brisingamen and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Moon_of_Gomrath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Appleyard Posted August 7, 2019 Author Share Posted August 7, 2019 I am starting to read Book 3, and I found where a big heavy stone had been made magical so that it could be made to reveal a secret entrance. Mirri Maz Duur seems to show a good skill at medical magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost Beyond the Wall Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 On 7/21/2019 at 7:24 AM, Loge said: Magic in ASOIAF is not at all like Dungeons and Dragons or Harry Potter. It's scary and usually comes at a cost, like blood or even human sacrifice. You don't just cast a spell. Agreed and it doesn't always work out like you intend it to, like when Daenaery's asked MMD to bring Drogo back etc.. who knows? Maybe when the Valyrians practiced blood sorcery it helped cause their doom? Basically, in GRRM's universe, magic is dangerous, unpredictable and supernatural and comes at great personal cost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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