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If someone wants to write GoT scenario fan fiction, and involve mages in the story, he would need to get the magical abilities of GoT mages reasonably correct.

Likely, some people who have read the Harry Potter series, would rely on it for such information, and it would easy for those people thus to get the abilities of mages wrong for the WoIaF / GoT scenario.

I have read through the book "A Game of Thrones", and I found in it not much about what mages could do.

Is there any argument for or against GoT mages being able to do these:-

(1) Cast a stun spell, on one person, or on a whole crowd?

(2) If the mage is near someone who is speaking, to detect if the speaker is lying? (Whether or not "the truth" means "what the speaker believes to be true".)

 

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There may be instances of Melisandre being able to do the second one, but i have read all the books and i dont recall anyone stunning someone. Firemages also exist, and can control flames. How powerful mages are also seems to stem from dragons and how many there are.

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It is to be wondered what maesters know and choose not to reveal. It is possible to imagine a maester at a private meeting saying "For example, there are four things, that the world knows of, separately, varied things: That amber if rubbed, picks up fluff and bits. The lightning that comes with rain, and farmers hard-pressed by drought are thankful to see it and to hear its thunder. The lodestone that tells sailors where north is, for when bad weather hides the sun and moon and stars. And the strange flat fish of the far-away Summer Sea that defends itself by causing violent painful muscle cramps in any fisherman who picks it up, and some have died of it. But between these four there is a link that we do not reveal. It is to be feared that if that comes out, we and kings would not be able to control what can be made or done using it.".

 

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If someone wants to write fan fiction, GoT is a very bad choice as a setting. Because it deals with magic as a scarcely, in a low-key fashion, without delving into it. And because George R. R. Martin explicitly asks to his fans no to write fan fiction using his world and characters.

Btw, fan fiction is also forbidden in this forums.

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Magic in Planetos is more similar to LoTR than D&D, it's mental to a degree and requires some connection to praxis and the intrinsic properties of the world (blood, fire, ice, the earth, animals). Magic could be speculated to be a physical phenomena that supervenes from the world itself where some users manage to tap into it. Warging, future sight all seems to be some genetic mutation, and other magic requires physical elements.

In that sense magic is a material phenomena, walking around with a stick shouting bizarre words to master the natural would have no effect

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I am starting to read Book 3, and I found where a big heavy stone had been made magical so that it could be made to reveal a secret entrance.

Mirri Maz Duur seems to show a good skill at medical magic.

 

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On 7/21/2019 at 7:24 AM, Loge said:

Magic in ASOIAF is not at all like Dungeons and Dragons or Harry Potter. It's scary and usually comes at a cost, like blood or even human sacrifice. You don't just cast a spell.

Agreed and it doesn't always work out like you intend it to, like when Daenaery's asked MMD to bring Drogo back etc.. who knows? Maybe when the Valyrians practiced blood sorcery it helped cause their doom? Basically, in GRRM's universe, magic is dangerous, unpredictable and supernatural and comes at great personal cost

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