Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
HelenaExMachina

UK Politics: It's Life Pfeffel but not as we know it

Recommended Posts

Posted (edited)

Continue.

I still find myself amazed this is our new state of affairs. I've found myself I t he pub every night this week. 

 

Actually, on that note, I'm in the North East. My local is just that, traditional. And sadly, UKIP central, Farage fanatics. Etc. They are also of the variety that traditionally saw Boris as the lovable buffoon we cann all relate to. Bizzarely but nevermind. And they seem to have suddenly soured. They can't believe we are led by such an idiot. People are weird.

 

ETA: eh, feel free to merge or lock this thread, @Lykos and I must have been posting at the same time

Edited by HelenaExMachina

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, HelenaExMachina said:

Actually, on that note, I'm in the North East. My local is just that, traditional. And sadly, UKIP central, Farage fanatics. Etc. They are also of the variety that traditionally saw Boris as the lovable buffoon we cann all relate to. Bizzarely but nevermind. And they seem to have suddenly soured. They can't believe we are led by such an idiot. People are weird.

I suppose there could be a difference between them liking Boris and wanting him to be in charge of the country? Farage might have faced similar issues if he'd ever managed to actually get elected to a position of power.

To what extent Boris can bring back Tory voters who might be flirting with the Brexit party is probably going to be crucial in terms of the results if there is an autumn election, and I don't think anybody really knows for sure to what extent he's going to be able to do that.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
11 hours ago, HelenaExMachina said:

And they seem to have suddenly soured. They can't believe we are led by such an idiot

They've soured over Alexander Ali, but are still strong for no deal Brexit? :lol: There is no accounting for tastes and all that I suppose.

But this is very interesting - in a snap GE, these types still vote for the Brexit Party then you think? Which I guess means a Labour MP in their seat.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
8 hours ago, Ser Hedge said:

They've soured over Alexander Ali, but are still strong for no deal Brexit? :lol: There is no accounting for tastes and all that I suppose.

Voters can be weird, I remember a recent article on the upcoming by-election where the journalist was thoroughly confused by one voter who said they were a committed Leave voter and were so sick of the main parties failing to deliver it that they were going to vote for the Liberal Democrats.

The first batch of polls after Boris becoming PM have now come out. There's evidence of a bit of a boost in for the Tories (apparently at the expense of the Brexit Party), but since a honeymoon period is standard for a new PM it doesn't seem particularly impressive. There is one poll showing a 10 point lead, but the others have 5, 2, 2 and 1 point leads which aren't likely to translate into a majority.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)

7 years ago today we were all watching the London Olympics opening ceremony. A celebration of optimism, unity, diversity, humanity and inclusion.

We've come a long way.

Edited by Which Tyler

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, Which Tyler said:

7 years ago today we were all watching the London Olympics opening ceremony. A celebration of optimism, unity, diversity, humanity and inclusion.

We've come a long way.

With a certain official from small town in England hung out to dry waving tiny Union Jacks grinning like an idiot, void of either shame or dignity.

The more things change, the more the stay the same. It's all a matter of a perspective.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Just gonna throw this out there, Boris Johnson sounds like the name of a villain in a Cold War era pornographic spy thriller.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)

Oh, so you guys decided to make Gary Busey Prime Minister.  Congrats, I guess?

Edited by Martell Spy

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, Martell Spy said:

Oh, so you guys decided to make Gary Busey Prime Minister.  Congrats, I guess?

Thank you. We've had a snake oil salesman who thought his role was to be Bush's 'stunt-double' for risque foreign policy, an asocial control freak who according to a PR person from his own party was "incapable emotionally and psychologically of leadership", an actual ex-PR person who thought it was a good idea to offer a referendum on EU membership with no plan if the people voted to Leave and finally an autistic upjumped clerk obsessed with immigration as the last four PMs.

Time to try a clown.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 hours ago, nah said:

Just gonna throw this out there, Boris Johnson sounds like the name of a villain in a Cold War era pornographic spy thriller.

Apparently he's also the hero of a pulp SF thriller called Agents of Chaos

Some of the quotes do sound like him;

"Boris Johnson was quite willing to babble on – and did so at every opportunity – but the man was a fool."

"Blind courage is, of course, a Random Factor. So is heroism. So, too, for that matter, is sheer stupidity – and Johnson, paradoxically, is a source of all three."

(Not sure I'd agree with 'heroism' but his Brexit strategy is definitely relying heavily on both blind courage and sheer stupidity).

"A man who believes what he wants to believe. It was all a trap, Mr Boris Johnson, and you walked right into it."

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
16 hours ago, DireWolfSpirit said:

It feels like I'm going to see a unified Ireland in the near future. 

https://news.yahoo.com/fighting-talk-ireland-raises-stakes-brexit-showdown-095342552.html

Star Trek: The Next Generation had an episode which actually pinpointed the date of Irish unification to 2024 (and was so controversial that the episode was outright banned in the UK for years), which sounds about right - if not a bit on the pessimistic side - right about now.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
8 hours ago, Werthead said:

Star Trek: The Next Generation had an episode which actually pinpointed the date of Irish unification to 2024 (and was so controversial that the episode was outright banned in the UK for years), which sounds about right - if not a bit on the pessimistic side - right about now.

And who would have ever thought the DUP would play such a pivotal role in Irish re-unification? :lol:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)
13 hours ago, Werthead said:

Star Trek: The Next Generation had an episode which actually pinpointed the date of Irish unification to 2024 (and was so controversial that the episode was outright banned in the UK for years), which sounds about right - if not a bit on the pessimistic side - right about now.

To what extent would this negatively effect the UK? After Brexit the UK would already be in a vulnerable state Economically and politically. I imagine this would be another drastic blow. 

 

Edited by Varysblackfyre321

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
14 hours ago, Werthead said:

Star Trek: The Next Generation had an episode which actually pinpointed the date of Irish unification to 2024 (and was so controversial that the episode was outright banned in the UK for years), which sounds about right - if not a bit on the pessimistic side - right about now.

I just looked that one up on Memory Alpha because it totally eluded me and you are right. Though damn, Data used it as an example of an event accompanied by acts of terrorism... let us hope for a more optimistic outcome.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)
47 minutes ago, Varysblackfyre321 said:

To what extent would this negatively effect the UK? After Brexit the UK would already be in a vulnerable state Economically and politically. I imagine this would be another drastic blow. 

It would reduce the population of the UK by 1.8 million, remove one of our currently best-performing cities economically (Belfast), and take out £6.3 billion in exports. Northern Ireland's GDP (PPP) is £40 billion.

So it would be a blow, but not a crippling one and not as bad as losing Scotland.

It should be noted that the cost for the Republic of Ireland of absorbing the North and having to unify standards right across the island would be quite high (not reunification of Germany high, but high) and it would redraw the political map of the island, as political parties focused on unionism (with the UK) like the DUP would become obscure and Sinn Fein would become a fair bit bigger. There would be significant benefits as well, of course, in terms of joining the two economies together.

Edited by Werthead

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I don’t think it’s all that uncommon for smart, forward thinking shows to accurately predict how history unfolds. After all, the Simpsons in the 90’s predicted that Trump would be president and bankrupt the nation. That’s looking more accurate every day. Hopefully you guys won’t have to save us in WW3.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 hours ago, Ser Hedge said:

And who would have ever thought the DUP would play such a pivotal role in Irish re-unification? :lol:

Absolutely impossible without their drive and enthusiasm.And of course they can console their electorate that losing the Union is a small price to pay for having no pesky backstop.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So have the Irish settled on a material for Arlene's bust in the National Museum of Ireland?

Marble looks a bit too posh for her, imho, but in line with great historical figures like Cesar, who knows. Granite certainly has to come into consideration. The material of tombstones, so for her as the person who delivered to final blow to the unionists in the Northern Ireland, I can see the appeal. Porcellan or ceramic, you kow, like a toilet bowl, that would be the most appropriate material for the Arlene Foster bust.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I still can't believe the price your politicians are prepared to pay for delivering something that no other country is even remotely interested in. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  

×