u.s. politics: sundowning on the american empire

[DMC]

12 minutes ago, Kalbear said:

If they could all rally behind Harris, cool beans, but she keeps fucking up any reasonable progressive vibe, and chances are good not a whole lot of the progressives are going to trust a cop, at least not one with her record.

It's still early yet, but yeah I'm starting to get worried Biden's gonna take it.  Which I really don't think is good for the general.

[Kalbear]

10 minutes ago, DMC said:

It's still early yet, but yeah I'm starting to get worried Biden's gonna take it.  Which I really don't think is good for the general.

I think a whole lot depends on South Carolina. She's been putting a lot of resources into getting something there, and I think if she can actually win there she can show that she can beat Biden elsewhere. If she somehow puts in a strong showing in Iowa that'd be something, too, but I don't get that vibe so far from Iowa - I think that Warren will do well there, Sanders not so much, and Biden will otherwise make a killing. 

[DMC]

33 minutes ago, Kalbear said:

I think a whole lot depends on South Carolina.

I mean, yes, but as you intimated I think a lot depends on Iowa.  Who knows what the expectations are gonna be, but if Harris is still in the top 4, she needs to beat those expectations in Iowa.  NH is gonna be a bust between Biden and the fact both Sanders and Warren are from adjacent states.  So, I think just like Obama you gotta overperform in Iowa to set up SC, if I was Harris.

[The Anti-Targ]

Why did Democrats have to get Hillary Clinton out of their system before someone like Elizabeth Warren could step forward free from the taint of decades of allegations of criminal conspiracies and rape apologism (however unfair all or most of that might be)?

[Martell Spy]

35 minutes ago, DMC said:

I mean, yes, but as you intimated I think a lot depends on Iowa.  Who knows what the expectations are gonna be, but if Harris is still in the top 4, she needs to beat those expectations in Iowa.  NH is gonna be a bust between Biden and the fact both Sanders and Warren are from adjacent states.  So, I think just like Obama you gotta overperform in Iowa to set up SC, if I was Harris.

Didn't California move up its primary?

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California is slated to vote on March 3, the first day allowed for a state that’s not in the traditional early state lineup. And because of California’s early-voting system, voters will get primary ballots starting 30 days before the primary, which coincides with the Iowa caucuses.

California moves up primary, wants bigger impact 2020 vote

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/california-moves-up-primary-wants-bigger-impact-2020-vote

 

Also, what kind of cuckservative bullshit is this? You're a Republican, you are letting Jesus down. I mean, we clearly need more military style weapons everywhere, even in schools and churches. Hell let's arm the pre-schoolers with automatics, as long as it makes the NRA happy.

Ohio Republican Supports Banning Military-Style Weapons Following Dayton Shooting
Congressman Mike Turner represents Dayton, where a heavily armed gunman killed at least nine people and injured 27 others.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dayton-shooting-assault-ban-gop-mike-turner_n_5d49d64be4b0244052e273fd

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Rep. Mike Turner (R-Ohio) announced Tuesday his support for a ban on sales of “military style weapons” following the deadly mass shooting in downtown Dayton, Ohio, over the weekend.

“I believe these are necessary steps forward in protecting our country and a testament to American values, which include protecting human life,” Turner, who represents Dayton, said in a statement.

 

 

[DMC]

17 minutes ago, Martell Spy said:

Didn't California move up its primary?

Aye, but just to Super Tuesday.  The first four are still Iowa, NH, Nevada, and SC, in that order.  Only real shift in that is SC usually came before Nevada, but I'm not sure how much the Nevada caucuses matter.  We'll see.

[Bonnot OG]

15 minutes ago, Triskele said:

Watching some Youtube...has anyone ever noticed the resemblance, including haircut, between badass Win Butler and epic douche Nazi Richard Spencer?  Both from Texas too. 

I thought Dick was from Montana? Speaking of dick, I got his cell phone # & occasionally like to fuck with him. 

 

 

[Martell Spy]

Yeah, you could totally make a Feral Hogs Space Invaders game.

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Isbell had, like many celebrities, expressed support for gun control (specifically a ban on assault weapons) in the wake of the El Paso and Dayton mass shootings.

So McNabb attempted to rebut him by naming a legitimate reason to own AR-15s and other advanced semiautomatic rifles: mowing down the feral hogs that menace him and his young children.

Unfortunately for McNabb, the mental image of a violent army of pigs facing off against one AR-15-wielding hero quickly got the better of Twitter and, before long, it was trending nationwide with over 50,000 tweets.

They were good tweets. It was probably the only good day on Twitter in the website’s history. And it wasn’t just Twitter. There is already an interactive web game where players can defend their small children from 30 to 50 hogs.

 

30 to 50 feral hogs, explained
Feral hogs, 30-50 or otherwise, are a serious problem for agriculture and human morality.

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/8/6/20756162/30-to-50-feral-hogs-meme-assault-weapons-guns-kids

[karaddin]

I haven't been able to take quite as much joy in the hog memes since I saw it pointed out that unlikely to be a coincidence that if you add the 30-50 to each other and the 3-5 to each other you wind up with the Nazi whistle number.

Those fucks are so obsessed with their weird numerology shit that he's probably getting more pleasure out of getting everyone to repeat those numbers than is offset by the entirety of Twitter dunking on him.

[Fragile Bird]

Wait - there are magic Nazi numbers that these guys get pleasure out of quoting?

Eta: ok, 14, 18 and 88, but not 8 and not 80.

[Free Northman Reborn]

So - at a rough guess, merely for purposes of illustration - you have maybe 40% of the country supporting Trump/ Republican Party, maybe 10% undecided, maybe 30% supporting a moderate Democrat position and the remaining maybe 15-20% supporting the radical, socialist wing of the Democratic party.

And yet on this site the general lamentation is that the 30% moderate Democrats are not left wing enough and that woe would befall the nation if a candidate from that 30% block is elected.

You guys live in a bubble of radicalism.

 

[karaddin]

1 hour ago, Fragile Bird said:

Wait - there are magic Nazi numbers that these guys get pleasure out of quoting?

Eta: ok, 14, 18 and 88, but not 8 and not 80.

80+8 in this case.

[Rippounet]

6 minutes ago, Free Northman Reborn said:

You guys live in a bubble of radicalism.

Says the guy who blames mass shootings on the decadence of modern society...

As if Trump wasn't considered an ethno-nationalist and the Republican Party a far-right movement...

I'm starting to like you.

[Larry of the Lawn]

4 minutes ago, Free Northman Reborn said:

So - at a rough guess, merely for purposes of illustration - you have maybe 40% of the country supporting Trump/ Republican Party, maybe 10% undecided, maybe 30% supporting a moderate Democrat position and the remaining maybe 15-20% supporting the radical, socialist wing of the Democratic party.

And yet on this site the general lamentation is that the 30% moderate Democrats are not left wing enough and that woe would befall the nation if a candidate from that 30% block is elected.

You guys live in a bubble of radicalism.

 

You're ignorant.  I'll sit there and advocate for Biden if he gets the nomination, and certainly vote for him.  I assume most of the other posters here are in the same boat.  I'm pragmatic at the end of the day. 

I actually live in a bubble of conservatism and Trumpism in the real world so this place is actually a nice little refuge for me.  In my professional life 90% of my colleagues and probabaly 75% of my customers are Republican or Trump supporters.  

None of the candidates except Sanders are left wing enough for me and I have my reservations about him.  It's not going to stop me from a) stating what kind of government I want or b) sucking it up and voting for an asshole like Biden.  Thanks for the thoughts

 

[Free Northman Reborn]

16 minutes ago, larrytheimp said:

You're ignorant.  I'll sit there and advocate for Biden if he gets the nomination, and certainly vote for him.  I assume most of the other posters here are in the same boat.  I'm pragmatic at the end of the day. 

I actually live in a bubble of conservatism and Trumpism in the real world so this place is actually a nice little refuge for me.  In my professional life 90% of my colleagues and probabaly 75% of my customers are Republican or Trump supporters.  

None of the candidates except Sanders are left wing enough for me and I have my reservations about him.  It's not going to stop me from a) stating what kind of government I want or b) sucking it up and voting for an asshole like Biden.  Thanks for the thoughts

 

I’m not commenting on your personal position. I’m commenting on how widespread your position is on this site, and pointing out (once again) that this site is an echo chamber for a radical minority viewpoint which does not represent main stream politics.

More interesting to me is why this forum happens to attract such a skewed sample of the population. My working hypothesis - with only anecdotal data to support it - is that what we are dealing with here is disproportionate representation from academia, either in the form of students or lecturers/ researchers, or ex academics /recent students, etc. And as Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro have pointed out so eloquently, academic institutions have radicalized dramatically in recent decades to the point of becoming bubbles of left wing extremism within broader society.

I don’t know. I’m still trying to figure it out. Maybe it’s something else entirely.

[Week]

1 hour ago, Free Northman Reborn said:

 And as Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro have pointed out so eloquently, academic institutions have radicalized dramatically in recent decades to the point of becoming bubbles of left wing extremism within broader society.

With their combined intellectual fire power of a pop gun. Shapiro especially.

[TrueMetis]

19 minutes ago, Week said:

With their combined intellectual fire power of a pop gun. Shapiro especially. 

A guy who thinks that students should avoid sociology, anthropology, and English lit because of neo-marxist corruption, and the guy who thinks that people will be able to sell their houses if sea level rises. Some real intellectual heavy weights there.

[Raja]

I see people are talking about Shapiro's 'intellect' - I will *always* post this when that goon is brought up ( it's only about 30 seconds)

Edit: Here's the full video, for people that are curious

[Guest]

38 minutes ago, Raja said:

I see people are talking about Shapiro's 'intellect' - I will *always* post this when that goon is brought up ( it's only about 30 seconds)

Edit: Here's the full video, for people that are curious

I've never understood how this dumb person's idea of a smart person has managed to hoodwink so many MSM idiots into thinking he's a reasonable conservative. 

Nearly all of his arguments consist of dumb shit like this, where he pulls an arbitrary number out of his ass and then concludes with a non-sequitur that somehow is supposed to prove his point. He has a verbal tic that's his tell so you'll know when you're about to be inundated with some made up bullshit. It's when he begins his point with "Let's say, let's say (blah blah blah)."

You know at that point he's going to choose an arbitrary number, he's using "let's" as an unspoken agreement to use the figures he pulls out of his ass and to argue on his terms, and you can rest assured that he'll pull a left-turn conclusion that makes absolutely no sense.

[Ser Scot A Ellison]

11 hours ago, Kalbear said:

I think a whole lot depends on South Carolina. She's been putting a lot of resources into getting something there, and I think if she can actually win there she can show that she can beat Biden elsewhere. If she somehow puts in a strong showing in Iowa that'd be something, too, but I don't get that vibe so far from Iowa - I think that Warren will do well there, Sanders not so much, and Biden will otherwise make a killing. 

FYI.  I haven’t seen anything from Harris in SC so far.