Anthony Appleyard Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 I am sorry if I am too far from topic, but would it be useful to start a discussion about the chess-like board game called cyvasse which is mentioned in A Dance with Dragons? https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Cyvasse https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=cyvasse In particular, to discuss and clear up the many differences between the various attempts to write a complete set of rules. One query is: does cyvasse have catapults and also trebuchets as two sorts of pieces? This seems to depend on one piece of book text about cyvasse that mentions catapults and also trebuchets. To me, that may mean one of: (1) Catapults and also trebuchets are two sorts of piece. (2) Catapults are trebuchets, one sort of piece, and the evidence has been damaged by that literary nuisance called "elegant variation" which encourages writers to use two or more words for the same thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elegant_variation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maarsen Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Anthony Appleyard said: I am sorry if I am too far from topic, but would it be useful to start a discussion about the chess-like board game called cyvasse which is mentioned in A Dance with Dragons? https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Cyvasse https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=cyvasse In particular, to discuss and clear up the many differences between the various attempts to write a complete set of rules. One query is: does cyvasse have catapults and also trebuchets as two sorts of pieces? This seems to depend on one piece of book text about cyvasse that mentions catapults and also trebuchets. To me, that may mean one of: (1) Catapults and also trebuchets are two sorts of piece. (2) Catapults are trebuchets, one sort of piece, and the evidence has been damaged by that literary nuisance called "elegant variation" which encourages writers to use two or more words for the same thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elegant_variation Damn those synonyms! Homonyms too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 You only get trebuchets when you capture a French engineer and let them rename your siege weapons. Sometimes they get sentimental though and rename them "Bertha" and your opponents laugh at you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lykos Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 @larrytheimp, you opened the path to a rich Krupp of puns here. @Anthony Appleyard, maybe the Complete Cyvasse Rules thread has an answer to your questions. (I've asked to move your thread, btw.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Appleyard Posted August 23, 2019 Author Share Posted August 23, 2019 That older thread's last message was in September 2014. That thread has been archived and closed. It ran to 17 pages. I saw a set of rules where the pieces have ranks 1 2 3 4 etc, and if a piece's rank is x, then it can capture any enemy piece whose rank is (x+1) or less. I am tempted to offer a rule that the dragon can fly over the heads of pieces between, but as it descends and lands it is vulnerable to attack by pieces near where it lands. Are there any takers for an idea that a dragon flying could pick up and carry (on its back sitting behind its pilot), one man of the sort who can walk on foot carrying all his kit (king, rabble, archer/crossbowman, spearman)? The man carried would have to move to an adjacent square when the dragon has moved and landed. Some sets of rules seem to have a rule that a catapult can kill a piece without moving to where that piece was. Is there a piece representing a man who is expert with a sword but is not on a horse/etc? The term "Rabble" to me suggests a poorly-trained new recruit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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