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59 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

Triple crown winner American Pharaoh has bitten Mike Pence. That is all.     

It is not all! We the peeps demand the Obamas' Netflix and book deals need absolute and thorough federal investigation for all the the things that are wrong that there are these deals that are criminal!

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16 hours ago, Triskele said:

This is truly incoherent, and higher education funding writ large is a separate issue from whether this one program signed into law in 2007 is being administered well or not.  

 

16 hours ago, Darth Richard II said:

He’s not TALKING to you! He’s talking to bonot og!

 

14 hours ago, Simon Steele said:

What are you even talking about? What does your last point have to do with your first? I don't get too mad on the internet, but your inability to think really frustrates me.


Democratic presidential candidates yammering about medicare for all and free tuition is idiotic.

Neither will work. It does however appeal to the masses.

Medicare is not free.

Giving carte blanche free college tuition is insane.

Somehow or another a tv reality star became the president of the usa.

Regulars on this site poo poo anything that shakes their world view. US politics is the basic premise and carries on through the multiple reinvented threads.

Biden was a joke as vp. Obama's health care plan was a joke.

Five year plan --- insured poor folk with a steady increasing premium and had a penalty for those who did not buy into it.

 

 

 

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12 hours ago, The Marquis de Leech said:

I was about to say the same thing, but got delayed looking up how many litres there are to a gallon. Seriously, petrol that is 80 cents a litre? I'd kill for that.

We pretty much do.  That's why it's so cheap 

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3 hours ago, Zorral said:

It is not all! We the peeps demand the Obamas' Netflix and book deals need absolute and thorough federal investigation for all the the things that are wrong that there are these deals that are criminal!

Update! The guy who manages the farm where they pimp this pony out at says he doesn’t think he bit Pence. Scandalous!!!

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American politics. When did russia leave afghanistan?  Was it something like 1989? The big bad russians could not control the area. The americians moved in. Here it is 2019 and america is still caught in a quagmire.

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6 hours ago, Clegane'sPup said:

Democratic presidential candidates yammering about medicare for all and free tuition is idiotic.

Neither will work. It does however appeal to the masses.

Medicare is not free.

Giving carte blanche free college tuition is insane.

Oh my, I'm convinced. What an erudite, witty, and cogent argument that you've made here. You've understood the MoA policy by way of literal reading of the name and simply called the other insane. Why?

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7 hours ago, larrytheimp said:

We pretty much do.  That's why it's so cheap 

Yeah I had the same thought when reading the post. The choice of wording strikes a bit off when you consider that context.

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18 hours ago, Clegane'sPup said:

Democratic presidential candidates yammering about medicare for all and free tuition is idiotic.

Neither will work. It does however appeal to the masses.

Medicare is not free.

Giving carte blanche free college tuition is insane.

Somehow or another a tv reality star became the president of the usa.

Regulars on this site poo poo anything that shakes their world view. US politics is the basic premise and carries on through the multiple reinvented threads.

Biden was a joke as vp. Obama's health care plan was a joke.

Five year plan --- insured poor folk with a steady increasing premium and had a penalty for those who did not buy into it.

Ok let me explain medicare for all.  Most of us already have insurance, right?  

So instead of paying Kaiser permamente, who takes my money and laughs because I'm healthy, all my insurance money (and what my employer pays), would go straight to medicare.  Then I would be on medicare.  Medicare (who already has the lowest costs of any insurance program) would then have money from me, and everyone like me, to pay for my retired mom and people like her.

We already pay for crappy insurance.  I'd rather pay for real health care.

And then its just the choice of is this made an option for everyone to choose, or just force everyone to use it and put an end to the blood sucking leaches of the health insurance world who add no value.

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Last night's Elizabeth Warren rally was in the nabe.  The applause and cheers were loud enough to be heard on the other side of Houston Street.  But The NY Times truly down played it.  The NY Daily News didn't even post a piece about it.

Mayor Bill didn't make an appearance, presumably because he seems to think he's still going to be the Dem nom for POTUS.

 

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13 hours ago, Week said:

Oh my, I'm convinced. What an erudite, witty, and cogent argument that you've made here. You've understood the MoA policy by way of literal reading of the name and simply called the other insane. Why?

Now, now, be fair. At least he didn’t do so whilst also waxing poetically about female privilege in broken English with some causal racism on the side. So progress?

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1 hour ago, Zorral said:

Last night's Elizabeth Warren rally was in the nabe.  The applause and cheers were loud enough to be heard on the other side of Houston Street.  But The NY Times truly down played it.  The NY Daily News didn't even post a piece about it.

Mayor Bill didn't make an appearance, presumably because he seems to think he's still going to be the Dem nom for POTUS.

 

Not a chance in hell DeBlazio(sp) gets added to the ticket. Is the NYC vote really not already safely blue? NY mayor adds nothing to a Dem ticket.

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2 hours ago, DireWolfSpirit said:

Not a chance in hell DeBlazio(sp) gets added to the ticket. Is the NYC vote really not already safely blue? NY mayor adds nothing to a Dem ticket.

NYers won't even vote for de Blasio for pres nom.  They don't hate him the way we have always despised you know who.  But his record as mayor has been, shall we say, less than stellar -- and as much as Bloomberg, he's never met a development plan he couldn't find something really good about.

 

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18 hours ago, Week said:

Oh my, I'm convinced. What an erudite, witty, and cogent argument that you've made here. You've understood the MoA policy by way of literal reading of the name and simply called the other insane. Why?

Oh my, I didn't try to convince you of nuttin.

I suppose I need to my research and learn what MoA is.

6 hours ago, argonak said:

Ok let me explain medicare for all.  Most of us already have insurance, right?  

Do most of americans have health insurance? That was what the affordable care act was supposedly about. Except the poor folk premiums started low, and continued to rise. Plus if individuals did not by in there was a penalty. That of course takes into consideration people actually filed tax returns with the irs.

4 hours ago, Tywin et al. said:

Now, now, be fair. At least he didn’t do so whilst also waxing poetically about female privilege in broken English with some causal racism on the side. So progress?

I love me a bit of sarcasm,

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4 minutes ago, Clegane'sPup said:

 

Do most of americans have health insurance? That was what the affordable care act was supposedly about. Except the poor folk premiums started low, and continued to rise. Plus if individuals did not by in there was a penalty. That of course takes into consideration people actually filed tax returns with the irs.

 

Does it matter? 2 elements take care of that: $0 payments/ premiums for those below a certain income threshold, and an opt-in system with universal acceptance and coverage of those who choose to opt in.

Don't know why free university tuition is claimed to be insane, since many countries do it and they seem to be doing fine. Heck, you can go to Germany as a foreign national and get a tuition-free college education, in English. If Germany can offer that to foreigners I would think pretty much any country can implement tuition-free university for its own citizens, if there's the political will.

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7 hours ago, argonak said:

We already pay for crappy insurance.  I'd rather pay for real health care.

You already pay for crappy insurance. You would rather pay for real health care.

How are the president, and the Senators who represent their entire states, and members of the House who represent individual districts gonna do the kumbaya?

FFS the electoral college voted in a tv reality show host as president.

 

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21 minutes ago, Clegane'sPup said:

Oh my, I didn't try to convince you of nuttin.

I suppose I need to my research and learn what MoA is.

It is a good idea to generally know something about what you're talking about before declaring it 'idiotic' and 'not working'.

There are legitimate debates to be had about the Sanders bill, but you're not making those arguments here.

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25 minutes ago, Clegane'sPup said:

Do most of americans have health insurance? That was what the affordable care act was supposedly about.

Well, if you just looked at basic, easy-as-fuck-to-look-up facts, you would know that the number of uninsured Americans went down drastically once the ACA was implemented:

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Despite the increase Gallup found in its survey, the rate of adults without insurance remains well below a peak hit in the third quarter of 2013, when 18 percent of U.S. adults lacked health insurance, according to the researcher’s data. This was right before health insurance exchanges authorized under President Barack Obama’s Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare, were opened nationwide in October 2013.

Since 2013, the percentage of uninsured young adults has dropped sharply.

Now, the number of uninsured has ticked up since the first quarter of 2017.  Now, what happened quarter of 2017 to stem the tide?  Hmm...

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And if medicaid had been expanded to all states, that number would have been even lower.

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