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John Bolton, President Donald Trump’s fired national security adviser, harshly criticized Trump’s foreign policy on Wednesday at a private lunch, saying inviting the Taliban to Camp David sent a “terrible signal” and that it was “disrespectful” to the victims of 9/11 because the Taliban had harbored al Qaeda.

Bolton also said that any negotiations with North Korea and Iran were “doomed to failure,” according to two attendees.

All the North Koreans and Iranians want to do is negotiate for relief from sanctions to support their economies, said Bolton, who was speaking before guests invited by the Gatestone Institute, a conservative think tank.

“He ripped Trump, without using his name, several times,” said one attendee. Bolton didn't immediately respond to a request for comment.

Bolton also said more than once that Trump’s failure to respond to the Iranian attack on an American drone earlier this summer set the stage for the Islamic Republic’s aggression in recent months.

At one point, Bolton, a previous chairman of Gatestone, suggested that had the U.S. retaliated for the drone shootdown, Iran might not have damaged the Saudi oil fields.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/18/bolton-trump-foreign-policy-1501932

I, for one, am shocked that he said these things. :lmao:

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30 minutes ago, Jace, Basilissa said:

I find little sympathy in my heart for the red necked fucks in Kentucky

There are plenty of minorities on food stamps and Medicaid in red states.

31 minutes ago, Jace, Basilissa said:

I mean this is all academic anyway.

Well, of course it's academic.  It's never gonna happen because it's ridiculous, only hurts the wrong people, and politically is an absurdly stupid move.

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Joe Kennedy is ready to officially announce he's challenging Markey's seat.  Markey's gonna be tough, but the polls look pretty good for Joe as long as he doesn't fuck it up.  So after a whole decade in the wilderness, Massachusetts will likely have a Senator Kennedy once more, and the world can rest easy.

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This whistleblower story that's been hanging out there is really intriguing in the sense that one can easily imagine that what they're trying to get out there is something enormously damaging to Trump.   

On the other hand, how the fuck with an overwhelmingly Dem House can it be so difficult to get to the bottom of this?  

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8 minutes ago, Triskele said:

This whistleblower story that's been hanging out there is really intriguing in the sense that one can easily imagine that what they're trying to get out there is something enormously damaging to Trump.   

On the other hand, how the fuck with an overwhelmingly Dem House can it be so difficult to get to the bottom of this?  

Because it doesn't matter? Have you ever had a job? How hard did you work when your boss gave you a menial task that would accomplish nothing in the broader scheme of your life and employment? 

I think some if y'all are too hard on House Dems sometimes. It's gotta be really hard to find out that you're just an impotent beta cuck capable of nothing and that that lobbying job you're gonna get in 3 years may pay millions but that's not even a real status symbol anymore.

These are real humans who have real problems to grapple with. This obsession with the internecine corruptions of Trump and the U.S. government helps no one.

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11 hours ago, Triskele said:

This whistleblower story that's been hanging out there is really intriguing in the sense that one can easily imagine that what they're trying to get out there is something enormously damaging to Trump.   

On the other hand, how the fuck with an overwhelmingly Dem House can it be so difficult to get to the bottom of this?  

Nothing much actually damages Trump at this point.  He's going to go down in history as the real Teflon Don.  He could shoot Nancy Pelosi in the middle of the Capitol Building on live TV and his followers would applaud while his stooges in the Justice department would decline to prosecute because she was "coming right for him."

The most important thing for the democrats to do is mobilize people who wouldn't otherwise vote.  Trump's base continues to be loyal to the bitter end and beyond..

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The Dems are terrified to use the force they are vested with to arrest persons who break the law by refusing to comply with judicial orders.  They are probably shaking in their bespoke loafers and designer pumps that if they did what they are legally entitled and charged to do that they'll be shot by one of the millions of trigger happy white supremacists who just can't wait to start the civil war (the sort of war about which there is literally nothing 'civil'  -- but then no war involves civil behavior, do they?).  There simply cannot be any other explanation that they continually allow the traitor in chief to continue blatantly and boastfully to break every law of goddess and man.

 

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4 minutes ago, Zorral said:

The Dems are terrified to use the force they are vested with to arrest persons who break the law by refusing to comply with judicial orders.  They are probably shaking in their bespoke loafers and designer pumps that if they did what they are legally entitled and charged to do that they'll be shot by one of the millions of trigger happy white supremacists who just can't wait to start the civil war (the sort of war about which there is literally nothing 'civil'  -- but then no war involves civil behavior, do they?).  There simply cannot be any other explanation that they continually allow the traitor in chief to continue blatantly and boastfully to break every law of goddess and man.

 

Lewandowski should have been arrested on the spot and tossed into the nearest cell indefinitely. 

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2 minutes ago, Zorral said:

The Dems are terrified to use the force they are vested with to arrest persons who break the law by refusing to comply with judicial orders.  They are probably shaking in their bespoke loafers and designer pumps that if they did what they are legally entitled and charged to do that they'll be shot by one of the millions of trigger happy white supremacists who just can't wait to start the civil war (the sort of war about which there is literally nothing 'civil'  -- but then no war involves civil behavior, do they?).  There simply cannot be any other explanation that they continually allow the traitor in chief to continue blatantly and boastfully to break every law of goddess and man.

 

Do you remember that part in Game of Thrones when Cersei rips up Robert's last testament? 

Words on a piece of paper, that's all a constitution or a law or a judicial decree is. If someone has no respect for those things... Seriously, I know I went on a bit of a sober rant and all last night but what do you people want from Democrats? It doesn't matter what they do or don't do. Republicans won. And they'll win in 14 months and 48 months after that. Democrats in the House are about as empowered as a gimp in a truck stop.

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15 hours ago, Triskele said:

This whistleblower story that's been hanging out there is really intriguing in the sense that one can easily imagine that what they're trying to get out there is something enormously damaging to Trump.   

On the other hand, how the fuck with an overwhelmingly Dem House can it be so difficult to get to the bottom of this?  

I don't think we've ever truly understood how little power Congress has until now. If the Executive Branch doesn't follow the law, so what? Congress has no mechanism to enforce that and Barr believes completely in the unitary Executive theory which means the Executive Branch can do whatever it wants regardless whether it's violating the law and it will be protected by the DOJ and OLC. So it's not that the House Dems aren't fighting, it's that they have no actual way to enforce any of their Congressional powers (e.g., see disregard for subpoenas, executive privilege for non Executive Branch employees, absolute immunity, executive privilege for the campaign). This is why, whether it's Trump or not, Trump has pushed us very close to an authoritarian regime because you find one person who's not as insane as Trump but wants complete power and it's pretty much over.

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9 minutes ago, Ice Queen said:

Lewandowski should have been arrested on the spot and tossed into the nearest cell indefinitely. 

Damn right.  But I suppose they were terrified if they ordered the officers of the floor to arrest him and take him to -- where do these people go upon arrest? has anyone ever been arrested on the floor of the House? -- the officers might well refuse to obey the order? as well all the others in the chain of command to execute the arrest?

 

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Also, in case anyone is interested, this is the letter the Intelligence Community IG sent to Congress stating he disagreed with the Acting DNI and DOJ but is bound by their decision making and is unable to do his job. Remember, this is a Trump appointee.

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5 minutes ago, Zorral said:

Damn right.  But I suppose they were terrified if they ordered the officers of the floor to arrest him and take him to -- where do these people go upon arrest? has anyone ever been arrested on the floor of the House? -- the officers might well refuse to obey the order? as well all the others in the chain of command to execute the arrest?

 

DC jail would have been nice. Guys like him don't do well there. 

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18 minutes ago, Raja said:

Fuck this noise

 

If the program is antisemetic I’m not necessarily against this. 

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1 hour ago, Mexal said:

I don't think we've ever truly understood how little power Congress has until now. If the Executive Branch doesn't follow the law, so what? Congress has no mechanism to enforce that and Barr believes completely in the unitary Executive theory which means the Executive Branch can do whatever it wants regardless whether it's violating the law and it will be protected by the DOJ and OLC. So it's not that the House Dems aren't fighting, it's that they have no actual way to enforce any of their Congressional powers (e.g., see disregard for subpoenas, executive privilege for non Executive Branch employees, absolute immunity, executive privilege for the campaign). This is why, whether it's Trump or not, Trump has pushed us very close to an authoritarian regime because you find one person who's not as insane as Trump but wants complete power and it's pretty much over.

One weakness in the system that jumps out is how Congress further enabled all of this, or the Senate did, to be more precise, by letting Trump get Barr in there.  

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13 minutes ago, ants said:

If the program is antisemetic I’m not necessarily against this. 

The letter to the university says nothing like that? Also, the assumption that these programs are antisemitic is a bit nauseating.

Edit: The letter itself doesn't mention antisemitism, but the Republican legislator letter to DeVos does so I'm still not sure why they're doing that, esp as the letter itself mentions very little about antisemitism.

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4 minutes ago, Raja said:

The letter to the university says nothing like that? Also, the assumption that these programs are antisemitic is a bit nauseating.

The article you linked said it was the reason people originally complained/flagged the course. 

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5 minutes ago, Raja said:

The letter to the university says nothing like that? Also, the assumption that these programs are antisemitic is a bit nauseating.

Edit: The letter itself doesn't mention antisemitism, but the Republican legislator letter to DeVos does so I'm still not sure why they're doing that, esp as the letter itself mentions very little about antisemitism.

The program teaches languages and culture. By now the stooges that play well with the bedbug's ways lie just as much as he and they do, which everybody should know by now.  It's not in the least antisemitic.  These are the people who also want to get rid of Spanish language classes, along with Latin American and Caribbean studies, because "they teach people to be communists and hate the United States."

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