The Sunland Lord Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 52 minutes ago, The Marquis de Leech said: Ah, but here's the thing - it's not Socrates. It's Plato and Xenophon's take on him, which is a very different thing. I swear though, if we have one thing to be grateful to Plato for, it's the fact that he has saved us from Xenophon's Socrates being the one known to history (well, him and Aristophanes, who is my next read). Yes I know, it's just that, Socrates is the main theme and pretty much feels like he's a co-author while reading the Republic. Sorry if I misled you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Marquis de Leech Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 OK. Just read a trio of Aristophanes plays. "Lion on a cheese-grater?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A wilding Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 "Lioness on a cheese grater" surely? As I understand it, there is no consensus as to exactly what position it was. However a (female) friend of ours who teaches Classics enjoys embarrassing her students by discussing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maarsen Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 5 hours ago, A wilding said: "Lioness on a cheese grater" surely? As I understand it, there is no consensus as to exactly what position it was. However a (female) friend of ours who teaches Classics enjoys embarrassing her students by discussing it. There are only a limited number of ways to do the deed. I imagine it was something men enjoyed more than women did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sunland Lord Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2019 Sounds nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maarsen Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 7 hours ago, The Sunland Lord said: Sounds nasty. I have the feeling that Aristophanes may have been teasing his audience by creating a mock sexual position that would leave them wondering what they were missing out on. The man was a comedian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sologdin Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 here's a goat on a cheese grater. maybe the bottom position in the phrase in question mimics this posture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 I reading the Landmark “Campaigns of Alexander” by Arrian. It’s really quite interesting so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clueless Northman Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Funnily, I'm deep into Curtius' History of Alexander right now - which differs a little bit from the original (Greek) Alexander Romance. And due to Sir Leech's post, I finally gave in and bought Plato's early short dialogues. At long last, time to go back to the man and read some Socrates (had read, the Symposion and the trilogy of Socrates' last days years ago). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maarsen Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 On 11/18/2019 at 12:50 PM, sologdin said: here's a goat on a cheese grater. maybe the bottom position in the phrase in question mimics this posture? I just got a complimentary photo magazine with my daily newspaper, and while leafing through the mag what do I see but a photo of a male lion having sex with a female in the same position as the goat assumes. I guess that settles that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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