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Liverpool finished 2-1, slightly nervy at the end as Genk made a late push.  So many missed chances for Liverpool again.  We’re still not clinical in attack, and we’re still conceding a soft goal each game.  We’ll have to be much better than that against City. 

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Top performance from Dortmund in the 2nd half. It looked all over for them at 2-0 down against a Conte organised defence. Hakimi was brilliant. Barca dropping two points against Slavia Praha keeps the group interesting. RB Salzburg getting a point at Napoli keeps that group interesting as well. Chelsea/Ajax was a crazy game - ten Hag will be disappointed at his side getting two players sent off and blowing a 4-1 lead. Valencia thrashing Lille leaves that group wide open with Chelsea, Ajax and Valencia all on 7 points. 

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2 minutes ago, ljkeane said:

We’d be better off sending the kids to the Qatar. Who cares about it anyway and we’re better off with the first team players playing midweek in Birmingham rather than two games in another continent.

This.  I don’t value the Club World Cup as a competition, and I dislike FIFA’s autocratic demand that we prop up their empty commercialism.

I’d prefer that we send the young players to Qatar, and save the senior squad from travel.  It would be nice to have a week off before the busy Christmas schedule. 

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I could see why Klopp would want to do it the other way around though. The opportunity to win the CWC only comes around occasionally as a reward for winning the CL whereas the league cup will be there every season so I could see him blooding the youngsters in the LC while sending a strong side to the CWC. Winning a CWC is more prestigious than winning the LC as well. 

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I read that part of the agreement is that Liverpool will send a squad for the Carabao Cup fixture that is 'largely consistent' with the squads that played in earlier rounds. So that would appear to address the point about their approach to the two competitions. 

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Of course he is.

The senior squad travels to Qatar to the glorified international friendly cup, while the reserve gets to play the domestic one. I think it would've been a tough sell the other way round, to tell your star players they should focus on playing Aston Villa on a smaller stage.

Anyway, the roughly similar, pardon, largely consistent squad is a fun way of phrasing it.

Yes, it really means. The reserve plays. Why just largely consistent? Because the senior players (Milner, Origi, Lallana), who played in the previous rounds, will presumably travel with the senior squad as back ups/rotation options.

Only question is, whether Lijnders will stay behind to do the Carabao Cup, or if they just leave it to the reserve manager.

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1 hour ago, A Horse Named Stranger said:

I think it would've been a tough sell the other way round, to tell your star players they should focus on playing Aston Villa on a smaller stage.


I don't know how it is elsewhere but no-one in England gives a shit about the club world cup, the LC quarter final is pretty definitely a bigger stage.



Anyway, I dunno why Arsenal were playing today but they managed to complete 519 passes but only one of them went into Vitoria's box.

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Didn't I literally call it a Glorified International Friendly Cup?

Anyway, I think the global coverage (like in outside England) for it is much bigger than the League Cup, I mean the League Cup is the secondary Cup competition in England. The FA Cup, I would get, why Liverpool could prioritize it over the those Friendlies, but the League Cup, I don't think you can find anybody outside England who gives a toss. I mean, I only managed to remember that City is the reigning League Cup champion by cleverly deducing (yes, I want a cookie), that they won all the domestic titles, thus they also must have won the League Cup, and I am kind of a football nerd.

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yeah I never got the idea that many people cared about the league cup. Could be off but idk feels like for at least the fans of the clubs that are competing for Europe it’s looked at as something that can be thrown away. 
you have to win the CL to even compete for the CWC so seems to me it’s more prestigious right out of the gate. 

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