U.S. Politics: Attaquer son cul orange!

[Varysblackfyre321]

I found this really funny quite frankly:

A small group of self-described “moms” held a news conference in the Kentucky Capitol Wednesday afternoon to make claims of irregularities in last week’s gubernatorial election, all of which were almost immediately proven inaccurate or irrelevant. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/article237320779.html

 

[Fragile Bird]

*We interrupt our coverage of US Politics for a school shooting*

 

 

A 15 year old...

[DMC]

59 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

Can you please build a coherent narrative first?

Hey, it's pretty damn hard to do so considering even Republican leaders can't settle on a consistent defense of Trump, let alone a cohesive one.  Poor @mcbigski thinks he's doing the orange lord's work arguing it's the president's duty to investigate Ukrainian corruption, but then there's this:

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I think one of the mothers of all conspiracy theories is that somehow the president of the United States would want a country that he doesn’t even like, he doesn’t want to give foreign aid to, to have the Ukrainians start an investigation into the Bidens.

- Devin Nunes, yesterday

[DireWolfSpirit]

In fairness to Mcbigski's otherwise strange take, he was correct (in the ThinkedX quote) about Ergodan having nothing to do with the Kashogi(sp) murder. The Turks were the ones who exposed the crime, not the perps.

[DireWolfSpirit]

57 minutes ago, Fragile Bird said:

*We interrupt our coverage of US Politics for a school shooting*

 

 

A 15 year old...

It's still an active crime scene, a California school.

[Mr. Chatywin et al.]

6 minutes ago, DireWolfSpirit said:

In fairness to Mcbigski's otherwise strange take, he was correct (in the ThinkedX quote) about Ergodan having nothing to do with the Kashogi(sp) murder. The Turks were the ones who exposed the crime, not the perps.

Nope, he misunderstood the reference. It was about Gulen, not Khashoggi. The former is a Turkish scholar “hiding” in PA. Erdogan desperately wants him to be forced back to Turkey so he can kill him.

[DireWolfSpirit]

46 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

Nope, he misunderstood the reference. It was about Gulen, not Khashoggi. The former is a Turkish scholar “hiding” in PA. Erdogan desperately wants him to be forced back to Turkey so he can kill him.

Okay got it, that's also another byline in the whole Trump/Ergodan saga as well. I remember reports that Flynn explored kidnapping(rendition) the guy as a present for Ergodan. Deplorable scum is what we have here.

[DireWolfSpirit]

Looks like the scumbag school shooter is now in custody.

[Mr. Chatywin et al.]

55 minutes ago, DireWolfSpirit said:

Okay got it, that's also another byline in the whole Trump/Ergodan saga as well. I remember reports that Flynn explored kidnapping(rendition) the guy as a present for Ergodan. Deplorable scum is what we have here.

Yep. Another wrinkle in the saga is Trump doing nothing after Erdogan sicced his thugs on U.S. citizens. Also, apparently he also gave back Trump’s “tough guy” letter. What a power move to do at the WH.

[argonak]

15 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

Yep. Another wrinkle in the saga is Trump doing nothing after Erdogan sicced his thugs on U.S. citizens. Also, apparently he also gave back Trump’s “tough guy” letter. What a power move to do at the WH.

It just to show what people think of Trump.  He's a joke.  Despite being at the head of the most powerful military and diplomatic machines in the world, he's actively damaging them and is easily manipulated.  He's everything the GOP used to try to say Obama was.  The real shame is that we have these huge powerful organizations within our nation who are supposed to help a President, despite his own strengths and weaknesses, do a good job.  No President is expected to be a master diplomat, strategist, lawmaker,  or any other.  We have / had trained and skilled organizations with deep benches who could help a President accomplish his goals within a framework, and maintain the system for the future.  Trump has managed to smash that apart.  He's like a monkey with a super computer who thinks the rock he's hitting things with is the most powerful object in the room.

Additionally, we USED to have something similar to support Congress and the Senate.  The GOP gutted it back in the 90s and fired all their in house experts.  And so both sides have come to rely heavily on lobbyists, to all our detriment.  The anti-intellectualism in the USA is destroying us.

[Maithanet]

16 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

Yep. Another wrinkle in the saga is Trump doing nothing after Erdogan sicced his thugs on U.S. citizens. Also, apparently he also gave back Trump’s “tough guy” letter. What a power move to do at the WH.

But he was able to convince Erdogan not to take Ivanka or Baron back as hostages, so it's not like Trump was a total pushover. 

[DMC]

So Matt Bevin just conceded the KY governor race.  All he did was ask for a recanvass of the results then respected the outcome, which is entirely reasonable considering how close it was.

[DanteGabriel]

1 hour ago, DMC said:

So Matt Bevin just conceded the KY governor race.  All he did was ask for a recanvass of the results then respected the outcome, which is entirely reasonable considering how close it was.

It's almost as if he realized the Republicans in the state legislature thought he was a dumb-ass and a loser too...

[Mr. Chatywin et al.]

1 hour ago, Maithanet said:

But he was able to convince Erdogan not to take Ivanka or Baron back as hostages, so it's not like Trump was a total pushover. 

However, he did fail to get him to take Eric. Call it a push?

[Fragile Bird]

Rudy Giuliani was asked today if he was worried President Trump would throw him under a bus. Rudy said no, Trump will be loyal to him.

Then he said but if he gets thrown under a bus, he has very good insurance and all his bills will be paid.

His lawyer, who was with him, immediately said ‘he’s just joking’.

[Zorral]

The global BREXIT planners include the Mississippi governor:

https://m.jacksonfreepress.com/news/2019/nov/13/god-save-governor-phil-bryant-brexit-soldier/

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....The organization says World4Brexit will not only work to sell Brexit to the 
international community, but will also "build 'watchdog' groups to investigate media bias and expose the funders behind 'Remain'" (referring to the 2016 anti-Brexit campaign); use research for "targeting business leaders, opinion leaders and media"; and "use paid media to get our message out." It is opening offices in Washington, D.C., London and Brussels.

World4Brexit's literature also notes that the group plans to hire lobbyists in Brussels. Brussels serves dually as the capital city of Belgium and of the 
European Union. Any plan for the U.K. to officially leave the E.U. will depend, largely, on trade and exit negotiations with the European Parliament.

President Donald Trump's former top adviser, Stephen K. Bannon, has separately been leading an effort in Brussels, called The Movement, to urge other countries to exit the European Union. Brexit Party Leader Nigel Farage, a close friend of 
Phil Bryant, revealed at the group's launch party in July that Bannon, who is pushing for a far-right-wing awakening worldwide, is informally advising World4Brexit.

Both xenophobia and a belief in "white" majorities seem to drive Brexit. U.K. voters narrowly passed the referendum in 2016 to separate from the E.U. (a "British-exit"), driven in large part by a revanchist attitude toward the influx of 
immigrants, including the 2015 refugee crisis that saw thousands of Syrian refugees claim asylum in the U.K.

"All studies show that anti-immigration was the key motivation for the Brexit vote and for support for far-right parties," Cas Mudde, a University of Georgia professor of international affairs and the author of "The Far Right Today," told the Jackson Free Press.

Bannon and Bryant see the successes of Brexit and Trump as parts of a global nationalist uprising.

"Right-wing populist nationalism is what will happen," Bannon told The Daily Beast in 2018. "That's what will govern. You're going to have individual nation states with their own identities, their own borders."....

 

And of course Deval Patrick, he who rips off and plunders the middle class -- no wonder the Dem donor class - establishment want him as contender, along with Bloombito -- NEVER Sanders or Warren!

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/deval-patrick-corruption-power-elite_n_5c0578afe4b066b5cfa49b66

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....Patrick has plenty of political assets ― an understated sense of humor and the experience of two terms as governor of Massachusetts among them. But the support from Obama is the chief reason Patrick is being mentioned as a top 2020 contender in the Democratic Party. And it might be best if Democrats didn’t go hunting for other reasons. Told from a different angle, Patrick’s biography isn’t an uplifting rags-to-riches story but an ugly tale of corruption among the American power elite. Patrick didn’t just make a lot of money; he made a lot of money helping a Republican billionaire rip off the black middle class....

 

[DMC]

8 hours ago, Zorral said:

And of course Deval Patrick, he who rips off and plunders the middle class

Yeah, this is partly why Patrick has no chance.  The thoughtless attacks by the left because he had the gall to work as a successful lawyer.  Booker's ties to Wall Street were already "problematic" for the left, and this dude literally currently helps run Bain.  Don't like making this comparison because it's not just race, but Patrick is essentially a repeat of Booker but he was a governor instead of a senator and has more direct ties to those dastardly rich people.  Anyway, his financial ties are not tolerable for the unthinking left.  Nevermind he was one of the most effective Civil Rights division chiefs at the DOJ ever during the Clinton Administration.  No, that's not good enough for the whiny "progressives."

[Gorn]

Well, the attacks aren't exactly without a good cause:

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Governor Deval Patrick, who was criticized during the gubernatorial campaign for his involvement with a controversial subprime mortgage lender, called a top official at Citigroup, former US Treasury secretary Robert E. Rubin, two weeks ago to intercede on behalf of the owners of Ameriquest Mortgage as they sought urgent financial assistance from the global financial giant. In a statement to the Globe, Patrick said he made the Feb. 20 call to Citigroup not in his role as governor but after a personal request to him from a top official at ACC Capital Holdings, the firm that owns Ameriquest Mortgage, which has frequently been accused of predatory lending. … Patrick served on the ACC board for two years, earning a salary of $360,000, until he resigned in July.

Broader (and funny) text by Slate: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/11/deval-patrick-finance-friendly-democratic-candidate.html

[DMC]

I like how Robert Rubin is now cited like the boogeyman.  I think his perspective is decidedly wrong and we need to rectify that, but it's entirely reductive to solely associate dude's career with the repeal of Glass-Steagall.  No one seems to remember it was a political reality that the GOP had been pushing for for 20 years, let alone regulatory capture.  Honestly wonder what some would make of Keynes if he was around at a later time.

[sologdin]

convince Erdogan not to take Ivanka or Baron back as hostages

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"And if Istanbul has fallen to the PKK?  What then, Father?"
A grave look.
"You are my daughter, Ivanka," President Trump replied. "Show them my portion."