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[SeanF]

13 hours ago, Angel Eyes said:

Then what was Jaime’s purpose?

What was anybody's purpose.  They were all pod people by the end.

[greensleeves]

I loved the ending of the series (at least the major plot points).

- To me it makes total sense that Dany is the final 'big bad'

- I love that Jon was destined to slay her and not the night king (Rhaegar put everyone through hell with the excuse of trying to make a savior, but the great big evil ended up being his own family... that has a nice roundness to it)

- Sansa: Queen in the North... hell yeah

[WolfOfWinter]

On 12/31/2019 at 3:52 AM, Angel Eyes said:

Then what was Jaime’s purpose?

To show that someone can be good and bad at the same time. Jaime helping Brienne didn't diminish all the other hurtful things he'd done throughout the show. And tbh Jaime really didn't do much good in the show after returning home. He stuck with his family through pretty much everything, including the bombing of the sept, Tommen's suicide, Tyrion's murder of Tywin, the siege of Riverrun etc. People hyped his redemption because NCW is a fantastic actor who's good at looking conflicted, and because he had a tragic backstory, but his arc stayed stagnant from seasons 4-7. 

 

 

 

 

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On 12/31/2019 at 6:16 AM, Many-Faced Votary said:

It is unfortunate that this is an unpopular opinion, because it is objectively and manifestly true.

No doubt the undue conflation of A Song of Ice and Fire with Game of Thrones has colored people's perspectives and induced confusion when attempting to analyze characters, but it's especially problematic with Show!Cersei. It is true that marketing played a major role in painting her as villainous, but how readily people bought into it is very much due to sexism -- but it wouldn't be Game of Thrones if misogyny didn't permeate every aspect of the show, internal and external.

Precisely. For all the claims of misogyny aimed at Daenerys by "haters", Cersei was the true victim of misogyny by the audience. She didn't have Robert's bastards killed, didn't set a KG on Tyrion, was terrified of Joffrey, was openly taunted by the Tyrells who were quite obviously manipulating Tommen into sending her away etc. Even her treatment of Tyrion was significantly toned down. Besides having Mycah and Lady killed in season one, and trying to assassinate Robert (which, whatever), Cersei's biggest crime till season six was having someone beat up Ros to get at Tyrion, who sent Myrcella to Dorne where she was killed, just as Cersei feared. 

Seeing people paint Cersei as the ultimate villain for blowing up the sept while preemptively justifying Dany blowing up the Red Keep stuffed with civilians because "people die in war" was quite illuminating.