Lord of Rhinos Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 As long as were posting profiles of Suleimani, Dexter Filkins is an amazing writer. Here's his profile of Qassem Suleimani from 2013: The Shadow Commander, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Reports are that Trump was wandering around Mar-a-Lago telling guests he was going to do something big in Iran. ’sighs’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martell Spy Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Warren takes shot at Biden with new bankruptcy plan Warren and Biden have long been at odds over bankruptcy. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/07/warren-takes-shot-at-biden-with-new-bankruptcy-plan-095493 Quote Warren and Biden have long been at odds over bankruptcy. As a U.S. senator from Delaware, Biden was one of the marquee Democrats to support the 2005 Republican legislation meant to crack down on soaring bankruptcy rates. Warren, then a Harvard law professor who made her name in bankruptcy law, had lobbied against the bill for years, arguing that lenders were at fault and borrowers shouldn’t be punished. “I lost that fight in 2005, and working families paid the price,” Warren wrote Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 22 hours ago, Fragile Bird said: The question is, how will Mitch McConnell structure his ‘no’? Sickening devil’s advocate thought: What if there was another quid pro quo? If Bolton actually wanted to nuke Trump, he could have just testified in the House. Maybe the assassination was to placate him in exchange for a more faltering testimony. He doesn’t have to exonerate Trump, just provide enough cover for the likely shame trial we’re about to see. Probably unlikely, but not outside the realm of possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 13 hours ago, DMC said: No. CIA didn't even formally acknowledge their role until declassified papers in 2013. So based on geometric progression, Iran can expect an apology in...a very long time from now. Somehow that’s even less shocking than I remembered, but then again it took us 60 years to apologize for intentionally infecting mentally ill Guatemalans with syphilis because YOLO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 51 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said: Sickening devil’s advocate thought: What if there was another quid pro quo? If Bolton actually wanted to nuke Trump, he could have just testified in the House. Maybe the assassination was to placate him in exchange for a more faltering testimony. He doesn’t have to exonerate Trump, just provide enough cover for the likely shame trial we’re about to see. Probably unlikely, but not outside the realm of possibility. I would say this is not unlikely at all, well, there may not be an actual quid pro quo, that may be a stretch, but I imagine whatever beef Bolton had with Trump could put aside for the sexual thrill he must be feeling over the prospect of a war with Iran finally looking like a reality. He was resistant to talking to the Democrat lead House, and he contacted The Turtle before announcing that he was open to testifying before the Republican Senate. I don’t think Bolton has any intention of telling the truth no matter what the cost, honesty has never been his strong suit, and his warboner may make him want to get impeachment out of the way quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 57 minutes ago, Morpheus said: I would say this is not unlikely at all, well, there may not be an actual quid pro quo, that may be a stretch, but I imagine whatever beef Bolton had with Trump could put aside for the sexual thrill he must be feeling over the prospect of a war with Iran finally looking like a reality. He was resistant to talking to the Democrat lead House, and he contacted The Turtle before announcing that he was open to testifying before the Republican Senate. I don’t think Bolton has any intention of telling the truth no matter what the cost, honesty has never been his strong suit, and his warboner may make him want to get impeachment out of the way quickly. There are a lot of hypotheticals that could get us from A to Z, but I don’t think it’s too far out of left field to tie the two events to one another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireWolfSpirit Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Tywin et al. said: Sickening devil’s advocate thought: What if there was another quid pro quo? If Bolton actually wanted to nuke Trump, he could have just testified in the House. Maybe the assassination was to placate him in exchange for a more faltering testimony. He doesn’t have to exonerate Trump, just provide enough cover for the likely shame trial we’re about to see. Probably unlikely, but not outside the realm of possibility. It doesn't sound unlikely to me. It aligns both of these men with their true character in a believable way. "Ulterior" could describe either one of the two's middle name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 13 hours ago, Triskele said: US Senate question: So reportedly Pompeo has informed The Turtle that he will not run for the Kansas seat that Roberts is retiring from and Kobach may be the GOP nominee like he was when he lost the governorship in 2018 (maybe the most satisfying result of the 2018 election). Do the Dems have a prayer of stealing a Senate seat in Kansas? It may still be unlikely, but there certainly is a "prayer". The Democratic governor, Laura Kelly, seems to be getting good approval ratings and many voters there are still upset by the Brownback administration's policies. Trump's approval is just about 50/50, not necessarily good for a supposedly "red" state. https://www.cjonline.com/news/20191206/gov-laura-kellys-approval-rating-in-kansas-tops-president-donald-trumps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Bolton is a piece of shit but he's just covering his ass. Same as he did by making sure Fiona Hill went up the chain of command with the Sondland "drug deal". He's not dumb enough to make a strike Iran for bunk testimony deal, especially since he knows how inept Trump and co are and the possibility of that coming back to bite him in the ass. He's thinking about his legacy - he doesn't want to go down as the partisan hack he is so this gives some cover for trying to do the right thing, and the safety of doing it under McConnell's blanket of bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 4 hours ago, larrytheimp said: Bolton is a piece of shit but he's just covering his ass. Same as he did by making sure Fiona Hill went up the chain of command with the Sondland "drug deal". He's not dumb enough to make a strike Iran for bunk testimony deal, especially since he knows how inept Trump and co are and the possibility of that coming back to bite him in the ass. He's thinking about his legacy - he doesn't want to go down as the partisan hack he is so this gives some cover for trying to do the right thing, and the safety of doing it under McConnell's blanket of bullshit. I mean this is probably right in the end. I just figured I’d float the idea because the sequence of events seemed suspicious. Anyways, Moscow Mitch is telling people he has the votes to set the rules, so all of this is mute. It’s going to be a two week shame trial. McConnell really will go down as one of the worst and most cynical senators ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonnot OG Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Apparently a base in Iraq just got hit with missiles from Iran. Good job Republicans and Trump supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 "moot" "sham" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A True Kaniggit Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Jace, Basilissa said: "moot" "sham" Shame on you. The point you're trying to make is mute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Arryn Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 It’s so good that the guy on record complaining about the waste of the US nuclear arsenal by non-usage is the guy who will have to tell whoever today’s MacArthur that no, you cannot nuke that target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 And the response begins... Iran launches missiles at US military facilities in Iraq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, James Arryn said: It’s so good that thee guy on record complaining about the waste of the US nuclear arsenal by non-usage is the guy who will have to tell whoever today’s MacArthur that no, you cannot nuke that target. That's the new wildcard here to me. We can beat Iran with conventional means, but the public won't support a proper strategic deployment of low-risk assets. Eventually when cities are being removed from the map and we are under no threat ourselves, even THE OTHERS suddenly seem pitiable. So if we try a ground invasion then Iran can do some damage. I struggle to see anything north of 40,000 U.S. dead at the absolute absolute worst case scenario. But it's not out of the question that Iran could score 5 or 10 thousand in the first few weeks and get that orange idiot so scared of losing support that he nukes Tehran. What a time to be alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, DMC said: And the response begins... Iran launches missiles at US military facilities in Iraq We're gonna bomb, bomb, bomb Iran! How dare they attack U.S. assets in a third party country! Why, that's practically starting a war! Don't you see, Libtards? The Irani's are coming for your guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 11 minutes ago, Triskele said: Now Trump has to commit war crimes or he looks weak, right? Can we get #DoItYouBabyBackBitch trending? I'm not sure how the internet works... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Last Storm Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 No confirmation on anyone dead in the Iran strikes so far. Hope for their sake and ours nobody did die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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