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On 9/2/2020 at 9:28 AM, Week said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/02/world/europe/navalny-poison-novichok.html?action=click&module=Latest&pgtype=Homepage

Who knows who ordered the tightly guarded nerve agent to be used against an opposition leader? 

Indeed. 

Another thing to consider is even if some of these nerve agent hits weren't successful, windows have become ridiculously brazen hazards as well, and, none of these higher profile attempts and assassinations would've been dared without a nod from Poots. 

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2 hours ago, Loge said:

An opposition politician in Belarus has been grabbed by men in black:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54056634

Doesn't look like a regular arrest. If they had any charges against her they wouldn't need this kind of cloak and dagger act.

 

looks like new trend, masked men in plain clothes and with police equipment attack and detain protesters.

 

read that lukashenka is running out of money really fast. he is going to visit moscow in september, probably to ask for financial support

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On 9/18/2020 at 2:38 PM, Varysblackfyre321 said:

Genuinely hope the far-right Anaiz supporters split more towards Fernando.

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2020-09-17/bolivias-interim-president-anez-withdraws-from-election-race

This was a welcome development. Áñez was never going to win it, but just on principle she didn't deserve to be in the race. 

Now it's all down to whether Arce can win in the first round, or whether Mesa can round up enough votes to force a run-off. Obviously everyone is going to be watching the numbers closely to try to identify irregularities in the count...

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Huh. This is the first I'm hearing of this CANZUK idea.

New Zealand and Australia already have very close ties with trade and freedom of movement, and close-ish ties on foreign policy and military.

It is curious that it's the conservative side of the political spectrum, at least according to this video, that seems to be very supportive of it. Since part of the motivation is anti-China sentiment it's probably not surprising. And conservatism / the right is the white / anglophone side of the political spectrum to.

I personally don't favour it. I think we have more to gain by becoming closer to ASEAN than the UK and even Canada. Though I do like the idea of a relationship with Canada that is very similar to our Australian relationship. There is also somewhat of a kinship between the indigenous people of Canada and New Zealand. The UK is a relic of our past it's not really a vital relationship for your future over and above any other nation. The UK's unuique value is the veto power in the UN, but I hate that existing and any nation with veto power in the UN (or anything that might replace it) has no long term place in global politics. I would prefer a sort of Pacific rim alliance with the 4th member being Japan. That would make for a bigger economic powerhouse than having the UK. OK there would be 2 principle languages, but that's still better than 27 for the EU. But English is already extensively learned in Japan, and Japanese has been a language offered in most high schools in New Zealand since the 1980s, and I think most Australian high schools have offered Japanese for about as long. More people are learning Mandarin now, but a shift back to Japanese would easily occur.

 

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Fucking fuck...
 

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https://www.politico.eu/article/poland-joins-hungary-in-threat-to-block-eus-landmark-budget-and-recovery-package/

Poland joins Hungary in threatening to block EU’s budget and coronavirus recovery package

Warsaw and Budapest join forces against rule of law mechanism that would deny funds to violators.

Poland joined Hungary on Friday in threatening to block the EU's historic €1.8 trillion budget and coronavirus recovery package, fearing that the European Parliament and other EU nations will impose conditions that deny access to funds for countries that violate the rule of law, diplomats said.

Hungary, which like Poland has been accused by Brussels of violating the rule of law and fundamental principles of democracy, issued a similar threat earlier this month.

The blocking threats were widely expected, but nonetheless put Warsaw and Budapest at risk of being portrayed as trying to obstruct emergency money amid the economic shock of the pandemic.

It will now be up to the German presidency of the Council of the EU, and Chancellor Angela Merkel, to negotiate some sort of compromise.

 

This is a strong reminder that with authoritarian countries withint the EU, the EU as a whole is compromised.

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On 9/21/2020 at 11:13 AM, Paxter said:

This was a welcome development. Áñez was never going to win it, but just on principle she didn't deserve to be in the race. 

Now it's all down to whether Arce can win in the first round, or whether Mesa can round up enough votes to force a run-off. Obviously everyone is going to be watching the numbers closely to try to identify irregularities in the count...

Yeah. If it comes back with the MAS back in power the US will say the entire election was rigged again.

 

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The Swiss have apparently looked their own version of Brexit in the eyes and correctly slain the beast with a nice steely knife to its head.:D

Congratulations on a job well done.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54316316

Brexit Cost Calculator-https://costofbrexit.netlify.app/

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On 9/27/2020 at 12:14 AM, Rippounet said:

Fucking fuck...
 

This is a strong reminder that with authoritarian countries withint the EU, the EU as a whole is compromised.

I mean, if you are going to let bastards into your club and give everyone a veto what can one expect? In some respects I agree with Hungary and Poland that EU budget and COVID recovery money should not be tied to rule of law conditions. Other mechanisms should be brought to bare to make authoritarian members step into line on those principles. Withholding money that at least in theory would benefit the lower socioeconomic groups is a shit and ineffective way to try to force the elites in power to change their ways.

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Azerbaijan and Armenia just went to war over Nagorno-Karabakh, or rather continued the war which was frozen (with minor flare-ups) for the last 26 years:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/28/dozens-dead-as-armenia-azerbaijan-clashes-continue

Clear picture about what is going on is hard to get, since both sides are spreading propaganda about their incredible successes, and there doesn't seem to be any independent reporters or observers on the scene. Azerbaijan made some progress and suffered some casualties in men and armor, while Armenians are suffering casualties from Azerbaijani drones.

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On 9/26/2020 at 2:14 PM, Rippounet said:

Fucking fuck...
 

This is a strong reminder that with authoritarian countries withint the EU, the EU as a whole is compromised.

I guess it was just a bluff. They would not dare. IMO membership of both countries should be suspended... somehow. The thing is now both countries are inside UE and the both regimes feel save - the only thing which could tear the fascist fucks off the steering wheel would be hard economical crisis. Just like the one when communism collapsed. But within the wealthy common market of UE such crisis is not very probable, so as long the plate is full.... What a plan they had! Hungary's been already lost for some time, Poland will be lost too. They are changing the system into one - party, masterfully using propaganda, shameless lies and social transfers. For long years.  

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