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39 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

Every analyst I’ve heard has said he simply can’t play in crunch time. Translation, he’s dead weight on a contender with that salary.  Dude just had the misfortune of being born at the wrong time. He would have been a monster in the 90’s.

Makes sense given his woeful free throw shooting.

But, I mean, the dude didn't even cost anything.  The Cavs got him for a ham sandwich and a used LeBron sock from 2015, which wasn't even the championship year.

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21 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

I didn't see the game, but all the talking heads are saying Russ was the real 5 in the game. Is that what you saw?

Not at all, he was never the primary defender on the Lakers bigs.

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8 hours ago, briantw said:

Makes sense given his woeful free throw shooting.

But, I mean, the dude didn't even cost anything.  The Cavs got him for a ham sandwich and a used LeBron sock from 2015, which wasn't even the championship year.

Piston fan here-

His first 5 yrs he was terrible at FT shooting, about 38%. But he's been a 60% FT shooter for the last 3 yrs, so there's been decent improvement with him there. Teams haven't resorted to the "hack-a-shaq" D on Andre for a few years now.

Your gonna see plenty games with Andre having a 20 points (w/ 54% shooting), 20 boards, 2 steals and 2 blocks, stat line. I think Clevelands gonna be glad with his play.

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6 hours ago, DireWolfSpirit said:

Piston fan here-

His first 5 yrs he was terrible at FT shooting, about 38%. But he's been a 60% FT shooter for the last 3 yrs, so there's been decent improvement with him there. Teams haven't resorted to the "hack-a-shaq" D on Andre for a few years now.

Your gonna see plenty games with Andre having a 20 points (w/ 54% shooting), 20 boards, 2 steals and 2 blocks, stat line. I think Clevelands gonna be glad with his play.

Good to know.

I also think he's a perfect fit next to Love, and I kind of like the attitude the Cavs took with the deadline.  Everyone thought they were going to trade Love and Thompson and bottom out, but the market just wasn't there for either guy so instead they made a move to make the team better and appease Love (he and Drummond share an agent and are apparently good friends) while not giving up anything of consequence.

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Drummond will never be on a contending team, but this feels like a decent fit to me. That must be a pretty hard pill to swallow though for a 2x all-star NBA player putting up the kind of stats he puts up. Unfortunate reality is, regardless of the merits or lack thereof in his individual play, this era just isn't right for his game.

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5 hours ago, briantw said:

Good to know.

I also think he's a perfect fit next to Love, and I kind of like the attitude the Cavs took with the deadline.  Everyone thought they were going to trade Love and Thompson and bottom out, but the market just wasn't there for either guy so instead they made a move to make the team better and appease Love (he and Drummond share an agent and are apparently good friends) while not giving up anything of consequence.

Yeah I think they will be an interesting team. You'll almost never be out rebounded. 

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A while back we had a discussion about no shows at the world cup and whether they should go to the olympics, seems Colangelo has similar thoughts. 

No Trae in initial 44 seems harsh. 

"I can only say, you can't help but notice and remember who you thought you were going to war with and who didn't show up. ... All we could have done, and we did it, is get the commitments from a lot of players. So with that kind of a hand, you feel reasonably confident that you're going to be able to put a very good representative team on the court. No one would have anticipated the pullouts that we had."

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On 2/11/2020 at 2:17 AM, BigFatCoward said:

A while back we had a discussion about no shows at the world cup and whether they should go to the olympics, seems Colangelo has similar thoughts. 

No Trae in initial 44 seems harsh. 

"I can only say, you can't help but notice and remember who you thought you were going to war with and who didn't show up. ... All we could have done, and we did it, is get the commitments from a lot of players. So with that kind of a hand, you feel reasonably confident that you're going to be able to put a very good representative team on the court. No one would have anticipated the pullouts that we had."

Dude can't play any defense. 

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Zion put up an insane line last night: 31/9/5 in 28 minutes. He's only the fourth player under 20 to put up a 30/5/5 stat line, the other three being LeBron, KD and Luka. 

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5 hours ago, Tywin et al. said:

Zion put up an insane line last night: 31/9/5 in 28 minutes. He's only the fourth player under 20 to put up a 30/5/5 stat line, the other three being LeBron, KD and Luka. 

And  Portland was up like 15 in that game yet lost by like 20.

Tonight Portland had to follow that up with a game @ Memphis and also lost.  But Lillard came up with a groin injury and is out for the all star game.  Guessing it's not super serious, but he seemed super bummed post-game.

This Brooklyn court...my eyes have still not adjusted to it.  

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5 hours ago, Tywin et al. said:

the other three being LeBron, KD and Luka. 

:bang:

51 minutes ago, Triskele said:

But Lillard came up with a groin injury and is out for the all star game. 

Guess Booker is in after all. Probably. @DireWolfSpirit 

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6 hours ago, Tywin et al. said:

Dude can't play any defense. 

Not sure they will need to play much defence v most of the teams they will face. 

I'm not saying he is a starter, but he must be one of the 44 best players. Also I'd imagine young players who have never been to the olympics and dont have a career of wear and tear are more likely to give a shit and show up. 

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1 hour ago, BigFatCoward said:

he must be one of the 44 best players.

Klay and KD are in as well. It might just be a courtesy inclusion, but I'm highly sceptical of their readiness to play. Looking at players like Kawhi, PG, Hayward, its likely that their initial return will be underwhelming. At least Oladipo is cleared to play now, we don't even know if Klay or KD will be able to before the season ends. 

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6 hours ago, Proudfeet said:

Guess Booker is in after all. Probably. @DireWolfSpirit 

Have Booker play Ja Morant 1 on 1.  Winner gets Dame’s spot.

You know you’d watch!

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4 hours ago, Rhom said:

Have Booker play Ja Morant 1 on 1.  Winner gets Dame’s spot.

You know you’d watch!

Hear, hear!

Speaking of Ja - at risk of sounding like a drooling fanboy, I've hesitated posting anything in this thread about how incredibly well he's played this season. Luckily, FiveThirtyEight said it much better than I ever could:smug:

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11 hours ago, Proudfeet said:

:bang:

???

11 hours ago, BigFatCoward said:

Not sure they will need to play much defence v most of the teams they will face. 

I'm not saying he is a starter, but he must be one of the 44 best players. Also I'd imagine young players who have never been to the olympics and dont have a career of wear and tear are more likely to give a shit and show up. 

He is top 44 easily. I just looked at the list and some of those names are laughable. Still, omitting Zion is more offensive considering he might end his rookie year as a top 10 player. If he can stay healthy he might end up in the all-time top 10. He’s that good.

5 hours ago, Rhom said:

Have Booker play Ja Morant 1 on 1.  Winner gets Dame’s spot.

You know you’d watch!

 

17 minutes ago, Ferrum Aeternum said:

Hear, hear!

Speaking of Ja - at risk of sounding like a drooling fanboy, I've hesitated posting anything in this thread about how incredibly well he's played this season. Luckily, FiveThirtyEight said it much better than I ever could:smug:

I think Ja would destroy Booker. Booker might be a bit better right now overall, but Ja will be so much better when all is said and done. He’s like a young hybrid of Iverson and Westbrook.

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1 hour ago, Ferrum Aeternum said:

Hear, hear!

Speaking of Ja - at risk of sounding like a drooling fanboy, I've hesitated posting anything in this thread about how incredibly well he's played this season. Luckily, FiveThirtyEight said it much better than I ever could:smug:

Drool away! He’s worth every bit of the fanboy love.

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1 hour ago, Tywin et al. said:

???

I mentioned upthread about how much I disliked allusion to others who hold similar stats. Its remarkably vapid.

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28 minutes ago, Proudfeet said:

I mentioned upthread about how much I disliked allusion to others who hold similar stats. Its remarkably vapid.

It certainly can be, but I actually think this is a decent one as it highlights scoring and  versatility at a young age.

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