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MLB 2020: This One’s For Kobe

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1 hour ago, DMC said:

It's insanely absurd to refer to a guy that played 20 seasons and is fourth all time on the free throw attempts list as "lazy."  Nobody in NBA history took as much physical punishment as Shaq.  Well, maybe Wilt, I wasn't around.

Talk to Kobe watching his fat ass walk into the gym with a bag of cheeseburgers while he'd been training for hours. And yes, I know you like him, but Shaq was lazy. A dedicated Shaq could have been better than Jordan. Shaq in his prime was possibly better than anyone, but even then his effort was not great. 

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LOL.  I love Ben Wallace, but acting like him, Rodman, or Shaq weren't utterly hopeless when it comes to shooting at the NBA level makes me wonder if you actually think coaches have magical powers.

There's a difference between not being able to shoot and not being able to shoot, and the latter was often time because you had bad coaching.

Coaches do not have magical powers, but it is telling that good coaching tends to get the most out of their talent. Just look at the NFL this year. The Pats and Steelers were not great teams, but they got great performances out of their players and both overachieved. The Chiefs, also with a great coach, helped create a monster the likes of which we've maybe never seen. And your team, which offensively, was pretty mediocre talent wise, made a different dude look like a stud each week it felt.

Good coaching has a great deal of value, and creativity and innovation only makes it better, as does a willingness to not be stuck to a singular idea of what that means. 

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Well now you're changing the conversation.  So you want starters to not only bat but try and play the field on off-days?  Even without a DH, virtually no one has ever done this at the MLB level.  You think that's an accident?  Hell, you said you want more Ohtanis - the DH actually helps him get more ABs because the Angels aren't comfortable putting him in the field.

I guess I'm just the type that likes this new concept of using a pitcher for an inning or three if the situation requires it. And that creates a DH loophole. You can move guys around in the field to make this work as efficiently as possible. 

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13 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

And yes, I know you like him, but Shaq was lazy. A dedicated Shaq could have been better than Jordan. Shaq in his prime was possibly better than anyone, but even then his effort was not great. 

I don't really like Shaq, particularly as a Magic fan.  And Kobe impugning his effort is hardly surprising considering their antipathy and the fact latter's whole gimmick was emphasizing he worked harder than anybody but Jordan.

15 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

There's a difference between not being able to shoot and not being able to shoot, and the latter was often time because you had bad coaching.

No, it really wasn't.  Not in the case of Rodman, Wallace, Shaq.  Bill Laimbeer was Rodman's frontcourt mate with the Pistons, and he made 200 3s at a 33% clip throughout his career.  Ben Wallace's frontcourt mate with the Pistons was Rasheed Wallace, and he made over a thousand 3s at a 34% clip.  Horace Grant was one of Shaq's frontcourt mates, and while he never shot 3s, most of his offensive game was hitting 18-footers.  Another one of Shaq's frontcourt mate's Robert Horry, who made quite a few pretty big shots if memory serves.

The three if them couldn't shoot because of bad coaching, it's because they couldn't shoot.  Stop acting like the game has changed so much you could fundamentally change an all-star's skillset based on a different offensive philosophy.  There were plenty of big men that had outside games - when they could do it successfully.

22 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

You can move guys around in the field to make this work as efficiently as possible. 

Having pitchers play the field is about the most inefficient use of one's roster that could be possibly be imagined.

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5 hours ago, DMC said:

"Coach them up" to what, a zero wRC+ rather than a -25 wRC+?  If you think "coaching up" is going to change those results to anything even remotely close to an average major league batter, your faith in the impact of "coaching up" is disturbing.  They're still gonna suck hard.

They can be better than they are currently, but they will likely be the worst hitters on the team in any case.  The at bats argument is valid I think.  Also, as much as I hate it, a good pitcher is too valuable for the team to risk at the plate and on the base paths.

I still think baseball players should be baseball players as I said before.  That means pitchers will bat like anyone else and they will suck and that will be part of the game. 

The other side of my view is, in addition to extending the careers of certain players, the dh taking the pitcher's spot means he isn't taking anyone else's.  I am a fan of defense so I'd hate to see a shitty defensive player in the lineup because the team simply cannot go without his bat.  Even though this happens every day anyway.  Hitting is the the most difficult thing to do on a baseball team so if you are good at it you'll be in the lineup.  At least one of those guys can hit for the pitcher.

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7 hours ago, DMC said:

Having pitchers play the field is about the most inefficient use of one's roster that could be possibly be imagined.

Positionless baseball could just be the next evolution of the game. Versatility is a valuable trait, after all.

But in more important news, the Dinos are back at it, and those evil Bears are getting their asses kicked. Just two more innings to lock up another one.

And ESPN still won't put us on. The lamestream media is just being fake news again.  

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12 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

Positionless baseball could just be the next evolution of the game.

Who knows, perhaps so could baseketball.

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19 minutes ago, DMC said:

Who knows, perhaps so could baseketball.

We used to play it in basketball practice.

It really is quite a fun game. I'd bet you would be a nasty psyche out artist.

(And the film really did have two of the prettiest women to ever live in it)

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DINOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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On 5/17/2020 at 3:24 AM, Inkdaub said:

I'm telling all of you...one of these days the Wyverns will win.

 

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19 hours ago, Ramsay B. said:

Our boys can’t be stopped! 

The Bears fucking cheated!

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Fuck you Bears! You like that beating? The glorious Dinos just whipped your asses! 

ETA: Damn, I didn't check the details. A 9 run ninth inning? The fuck happened there?

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After confusing me with a win a few days ago, the Wyverns are back on track losing three in a row.

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Woooooooooo!

Dinos keep smashing motherfuckers! 

The Heroes really needed a hero!!! 
 

 

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On 5/26/2020 at 7:59 PM, Tywin et al. said:

Woooooooooo!

Dinos keep smashing motherfuckers! 

The Heroes really needed a hero!!! 
 

 

Both our teams positively woodshedding the opposition...

For my part, I feel bad about it. Not only because of the aforementioned shoulda-married Korean lady, but also because of Gobbo's Doksuli.

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Run it back again. 

DINOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Beat those Heroes to death with a broom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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