Lollygag Posted February 7, 2020 Author Share Posted February 7, 2020 Just now, Narsil4 said: Kinda sounds like a maybe and there do seem to be clear examples of the opposite. I already said you haven't sold me, but you just keep repeating yourself and ignoring me. They come in different sizes. There's no assembly line or Westerosi official regulation of sword sizes that all blacksmiths in that world are beholden too. They make them whatever size the customer wants. GRRM said Ice is too big and ceremonial. It's described that way in the books. If you want to keep discussing this, please start a new thread. This is about Gerion, not Ice = Brightroar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Universal Sword Donor Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 14 hours ago, Lollygag said: I just disagree with these interpretations. There was a recent thread on Ice with the following included. https://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php?/topic/156248-how-did-ice-pass-from-lord-rickard-to-eddard-stark/ https://www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/Entry/Stockholm_and_Archipelacon_Report Widow's Wail and Oathkeeper were seemingly longswords. Ice is long and super wide for a sword (e.g. prolly looking like a final fantasy RPG sword), so it having enough metal for two longswords doesn't seem out of place. I don't really see any inherent contradictions in the descriptions and subsequent events other than being able to draw any type of long blade from a back scabbard is impossible unless you're 8' tall with arms as long as a gorilla's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loose Bolt Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 17 hours ago, Universal Sword Donor said: I don't really see any inherent contradictions in the descriptions and subsequent events other than being able to draw any type of long blade from a back scabbard is impossible unless you're 8' tall with arms as long as a gorilla's. It seems that one could do that if one just has special custom made scabbard. This video shows version made by Shadiversity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EWi2DnDoaI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lollygag Posted February 9, 2020 Author Share Posted February 9, 2020 On 2/7/2020 at 12:56 PM, Universal Sword Donor said: Widow's Wail and Oathkeeper were seemingly longswords. Ice is long and super wide for a sword (e.g. prolly looking like a final fantasy RPG sword), so it having enough metal for two longswords doesn't seem out of place. I don't really see any inherent contradictions in the descriptions and subsequent events other than being able to draw any type of long blade from a back scabbard is impossible unless you're 8' tall with arms as long as a gorilla's. I think the wires got crossed somewhere. I agree here. My problem was Ice (wide and taller than 14 yr old Robb and same height as Ilyn Payne) being also Brightroar, which I have to assume was a regular sized sword unless told otherwise. Most houses would want a vs sword for fighting, but not the Starks which raises questions as to why they'd spend so much for what's basically just an execution sword. Maybe something to do with the Others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Universal Sword Donor Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 6 hours ago, Lollygag said: I think the wires got crossed somewhere. I agree here. My problem was Ice (wide and taller than 14 yr old Robb and same height as Ilyn Payne) being also Brightroar, which I have to assume was a regular sized sword unless told otherwise. Most houses would want a vs sword for fighting, but not the Starks which raises questions as to why they'd spend so much for what's basically just an execution sword. Maybe something to do with the Others? TBF the starks really seem to have an affinity for executions. All i got Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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