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9 minutes ago, Freshwater Spartan said:

Fair enough but if I start heading news about how Michigan has a record number registered voters, I am going to be a little concerned. 

I still don't see why those findings would worry anybody.  Even looking at "non-voters," the results suggest it would be a wash rather than a Dem advantage overall.  And in the figure the politico article put up, Trump does have a slight advantage v. Dem in certain swing states - AZ, FL, PA, maybe Virginia.  But not in Michigan, where it was 31-32.  Anyway, perpetual non-voters are unlikely to matter much in the context of the horse race.  Because they're perpetual non-voters.

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4 hours ago, Muaddibs_Tapeworm said:

Very true. But the language of revolution is more potent as an organizing tool, and in my experience once people have that 'bug' they're much more likely to double down than get discouraged when met with obstacles.

They are also a lot more likely to alienate people. Regular folks don't like zealots, and Bernie's proposed strategy of bringing in new people is not reflected in the data. If anything, it's the moderates who are increasing their vote share, but they're still fractured. Tonight could shake that up.

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29 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

Regular folks don't like zealots

Except when they do!  Those reg'lar folksies just lurve them some maga greatness. Just coz maga is also madly publicly corrupt, a rapist, and all the rest, doesn't mean he and his aren't also zealots. Zealots are bigoted and boy do these lurve them some maga bigotry too.

 

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2 hours ago, Freshwater Spartan said:

Fair enough but if I start heading news about how Michigan has a record number registered voters, I am going to be a little concerned. 

You should be.

Edit: shit, I'm drunk enough to confuse states, but still, the bottom line remains that from what I know, Trump voters in those states (Michigan & Wisconsin) are not the "usual" Republican voters, and a record number of registered voters is bad news for the Dems.

Will go hide somewhere now (don't drunk post, people).

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Good grief, the shithead ambassador to Germany is going to be named the Acting DNI. He has no experience in intelligence. He's being named Acting so he doesn't need to go through Senate approval. He is, however, a Trump loyalist.

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1 hour ago, Rippounet said:

Will go hide somewhere now (don't drunk post, people).

You're drunk because you're playing some US Presidential debate drinking game, right?  As a Frenchman?  

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Warren just eviscerated Bloomberg on live TV.

Like, she's wearing his guts for garters right now.

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Knew Klobuchar's not able to name Mexico's president was going to be put up tonight.

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Bloomberg is getting destroyed.  I have never seen a debate performance this bad since Rubio robot.  This is honestly uncomfortable to watch.  Bloomberg paid 400 million to let this happen?!

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1 minute ago, Maithanet said:

Bloomberg is getting destroyed.  I have never seen a debate performance this bad since Rubio robot.  This is honestly uncomfortable to watch.  Bloomberg paid 400 million to let this happen?!

It's hard to understand why he chose to appear for the debate, when being the mysterious benefactor raining hundreds of millions in TV ads was working out so well for him.

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Warren is not my first choice but holy shit she is on fire tonight. She never looks better than when she is going after guys like Bloomberg. Biden is a fucking ghost, Klobuchar and Pete are in a slap fight, and Bernie has done a great job weathering the attacks against him.

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Lots of yelling over the stupid moderators-inquisitors.  Even talking back at them and choosing their own way -- the entire line-up.  I kinda like that, coz, you know, stupid media that thinks it knows all and is o so superior and never gets asked to the name, without prep, world leaders.  Or has to pay for health care or food or rent or education, etc.

Warren clearly has decided she has to talk a lot tonight, after the last one.  She's doing well.

I expected Bloomie to be slicker, since he does have a lot of media experience, and most certainly being interviewed, and being on stage, and supposedly is a fine debater.

But women and people of color and the record, plus, you know, always having his ass kissed and never challenged coz, you know, he's richer than anybody.

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Warren is showing what she's like when she doesnt have to hold back one inch. This is what she would be like against trump. Prior to this she has been trying to be vaguely respectable, but now she has seen her enemy and she is going to obliterate him.

It's ridiculous how erased she has been from the race so far. 

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Just now, Zorral said:

Lots of yelling over the stupid moderators-inquisitors.  Even talking back at them and choosing their own way -- the entire line-up.  I kinda like that, coz, you know, stupid media that thinks it knows all and is o so superior and never gets asked to the name, without prep, world leaders.  Or has to pay for health care or food or rent or education, etc.

Warren clearly has decided she has to talk a lot tonight, after the last one.  She's doing well.

I expected Bloomie to be slicker, since he does have a lot of media experience, and most certainly being interviewed, and being on stage, and supposedly is a fine debater.

But women and people of color and the record, plus, you know, always having his ass kissed and never challenged coz, you know, he's richer than anybody.

Pete kills pets because he is mad, Bloomberg does it because it is the only way he can feel.

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That said on Warren - the problem is never that she was a bad debater or couldn't take trump in a debate. The problem is that it doesnt matter in the least who can debate well against trump. 

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