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1 hour ago, Mlle. Zabzie said:

1.  There will be at least 1 national holiday each month under my reign.  However, the first two days of March Madness can only be a holiday if Duke is in the tournament.  

Acceptable. However, Duke chokes a lot, so if they lose on the first Thursday, we still get the Friday off, right?

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2.  Fountains of it.  Will likely be flat and Coors Light.  Am open to approaches from Budweiser.

(statement made at court)

“All hail Dear Leader MZ!”

(statements made in private down by the docks)

“Once the coup is complete, we throw the body in a river of Stella.”

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54 minutes ago, larrytheimp said:

Mass is weird liberal, like most of the northeast.  They even have a republican governor.   

Shows how liberal and tolerant they are, doesn't it?

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1 hour ago, Freshwater Spartan said:

You are right. Nothing is certain. Anything can happen. Though forgive me for not being relieved at the idea that "all we need to hope for is another highly improbable result in order to be saved!".

He is still an idiot for refusing Bloomberg's money. He still risks all of the things I stated above. He is not playing to win. He is still likely to lose. 

There is good news though. He is still lily white pure to the California woke crowd. 

He's no idiot. He understands that his movement is entirely based on truth between himself and the members of the movement. That trust was first established because he refused big donations from big donors that might imply he owes something to them. I'm confused about your reaction to this, because Sanders consistently attacks big money donations that potentially weds a candidate to the oligarchy. 

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Wow. Just heard two hilarious things about Trump. Not, mind you, funny ha-ha.

A group of Americans on the Diamond Princess, some with Covid-19, were brought back to the US and are in quarantine at a special facility. Apparently Trump was absolutely livid that they were allowed to return to the US. He is considering appointing a special czar to deal with the virus, because his head of whatever you guys call health obviously can't, he brought those people back without checking with Trump first! Somebody should make a campaign ad about that. Or at least some memes. Or a New Yorker cartoon.

The second thing that Trump is very very angry about is the fact that the stock market has been falling. I kid you not. How dare investors be worried that profits of companies might fall because their supply chains have been disrupted!

That, if nothing else, proves that Trump is not a businessman. A real estate developer is a different creature altogether.

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3 minutes ago, Simon Steele said:

He's no idiot. He understands that his movement is entirely based on truth between himself and the members of the movement. That trust was first established because he refused big donations from big donors that might imply he owes something to them. I'm confused about your reaction to this, because Sanders consistently attacks big money donations that potentially weds a candidate to the oligarchy. 

Because it's not a donation. Sanders wouldn't control it or deal with it at all. It's literally Bloomberg funding his own PAC and doing his own thing with it. 

And Sanders said 'nope'. Not any nuanced statement about how he doesn't control what Bloomberg does with his money and that if Bloomberg wants to support our cause, feel free - but I won't change a single word! No encouragement of him spending money on downballot races. Or anything about 'he doesn't have to support me, but feel free to attack Trump'. No, it's just a flat out 'will not take someone willing to spend a billion dollars to ensure Trump isn't re-elected.'

It is remarkable how Republicans have somehow maneuvered Dems into accepting that money in politics is horrible, and then proceed to outspend them absurdly and get massive influence. "No, sorry, queens are clearly overpowered and you shouldn't use those ever in chess". 

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how bona fide is bloomberg's offer? it's not like the cappies are wanting a leftwing president. 

bloomberg knew it would be rejected, so he can make the offer with no risk of funding a lefty.  and sanders can predict that bloomberg might spend a ton of anti-trump money anyway--so he risks very little in rejecting the funds.  they both get to maintain a certain purity while working together against the far right.  this seems fairly obvious?  

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3 minutes ago, sologdin said:

how bona fide is bloomberg's offer? it's not like the cappies are wanting a leftwing president. 

bloomberg knew it would be rejected, so he can make the offer with no risk of funding a lefty.  and sanders can predict that bloomberg might spend a ton of anti-trump money anyway--so he risks very little in rejecting the funds.  they both get to maintain a certain purity while working together against the far right.  this seems fairly obvious?  

I think Bloomberg made the statement some time ago, and a reporter asked him, what if Sanders wins? Bloomberg said he would support whoever won the nomination.

I heard a report today, not sure if it was on the radio in my car on CBC or from watching CNN, that a Bloomberg campaign person responded by saying if Sanders doesn't want the support he assumed Bloomberg wouldn't force it on him. I don't know what that means, though, because Bloomberg sounds like he really wants to defeat Trump.

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3 hours ago, Mlle. Zabzie said:

Insufficient imagination here.  The Monday after the Superb Owl would be a national holiday under my benevolent* reign.  Panem et circenses, baybee.

 

*Benevolence defined by reference by what could be rather than what is.  Applies only to those who agree with me. Cannot be combined with any other offer.  Prices and terms subject to change.

Just give me my bread and circuses already! Who reads the fine print anyway?

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7 minutes ago, sologdin said:

and sanders can predict that bloomberg might spend a ton of anti-trump money anyway--so he risks very little in rejecting the funds.

Yes this entire thing right now is all politics from each camp.  Bloomberg can either put up or shut up if (when) Sanders is the nominee, the money he's talking about was never going to go directly to the Sanders campaign or even his official PAC anyway.  Pretty strict limits on that.  It's all Super PAC money anyway, which is "indirect" supposedly. 

Bloomberg already promised he'd invest as much as $1 billion no matter which candidate is the nominee.  No point in getting into the weeds about it now, that's just for people on the internet.  Either he's a man of his word when Bernie is the nominee, or he's not.  Bernie can't stop him even if he wanted to.  So, this is basically Sanders calling Bloomberg's bluff.  And good for him.

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3 hours ago, Mlle. Zabzie said:

Insufficient imagination here.  The Monday after the Superb Owl would be a national holiday under my benevolent* reign.  Panem et circenses, baybee.

May I make a few suggestions.

Each NFL team should have one white collar criminal. They are easily recognizable by htem being explicitly forbidden to wear helmets (if you odn't outlaw helmets altogether).

If they succesfully play 2 full seasons, they should be pardoned. A new and special holliday, likesay  national concussions day would make the perfect occasion.

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2 hours ago, Jace, Basilissa said:

I should like to offer my services to the dictatorship I accidentally incited. I'm willing to accept a number of job titles "Minister of Propaganda" or "Thought Police Chief" are perfectly acceptable.

So long as my true work as

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goes unopposed then I'm at your disposal boss!

You're hired.  I'm more of a Lady Tremaine type myself.  We'll work well together.

2 hours ago, Fragile Bird said:

 

Don’t you realize every despot holds elections?

I don't do meaningless gestures.  We'll have important elections.  Like for American Idol.

1 hour ago, Tywin et al. said:

Acceptable. However, Duke chokes a lot, so if they lose on the first Thursday, we still get the Friday off, right?

(statement made at court)

“All hail Dear Leader MZ!”

(statements made in private down by the docks)

“Once the coup is complete, we throw the body in a river of Stella.”

Yes, official day of mourning.  And what a way to go....reminds me of a certain prince of england and a vat of malmsey.

6 minutes ago, A Horse Named Stranger said:

May I make a few suggestions.

Each NFL team should have one white collar criminal. They are easily recognizable by htem being explicitly forbidden to wear helmets (if you odn't outlaw helmets altogether).

If they succesfully play 2 full seasons, they should be pardoned. A new and special holliday, likesay  national concussions day would make the perfect occasion.

way too complicated.  Also, by that point, I will have eliminated white collar crime (and criminals), just don't question my methods.

Separately, a lot of US law firms have started officially panicking (cancelling events, restricting travel, etc.).  Mine has not.  I'm hoping hysteria is in control by mid-March because I have a spring-break trip with my kids to go on!

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2 hours ago, IheartIheartTesla said:

Why does Warren only have 20% support in Mass? Seems weird to me that she and Sanders together are about 40% in a super liberal state.

From MA. It's super liberal in the cities and more importantly out in the middle of the state with Amherst/Northampton. Suburbs are somewhat moderate/conservative and the then there are little Kennedy strongholds that still remain. 

Also people don't vote on total ideology. Obama's still popular and he was a Democrat, that helps Biden there. Things like that. 

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31 minutes ago, sologdin said:

how bona fide is bloomberg's offer? it's not like the cappies are wanting a leftwing president. 

I think it's legitimate. Bloomberg would have a problem with Sanders, but he offered it to everyone - Warren included - and everyone else said 'yep'. Given that Warren is, if anything, harder on the cappies than Sanders is in her policy proposals I think this indicates it's a legitimate offer.

31 minutes ago, sologdin said:

bloomberg knew it would be rejected, so he can make the offer with no risk of funding a lefty.  and sanders can predict that bloomberg might spend a ton of anti-trump money anyway--so he risks very little in rejecting the funds.  they both get to maintain a certain purity while working together against the far right.  this seems fairly obvious?  

Obvious, yet evidence suggests that it's inaccurate.

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47 minutes ago, The Great Unwashed said:

Bars of soap, wrapped in towels. At dawn.

Lol, why so small? I want to see Henry running through the secondary wielding a chainsaw.

40 minutes ago, A Horse Named Stranger said:

May I make a few suggestions.

Each NFL team should have one white collar criminal. They are easily recognizable by htem being explicitly forbidden to wear helmets (if you odn't outlaw helmets altogether).

If they succesfully play 2 full seasons, they should be pardoned. A new and special holliday, likesay  national concussions day would make the perfect occasion.

Rich having a German try to improve a game based on military tacticians. :lmao:

I thought you learned you can conquer through economics, not warfare.

30 minutes ago, Fragile Bird said:

Ok. Multiple shooting fatalities at the Molson-Coors plant in Milwaukee.

See @Mlle. Zabzie, don't make jokes about Coors being flat. Could make a man go postal after all. 

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In other news, confirmation that our president literally is being treated like a child by those around him:

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WASHINGTON – A former White House doctor says that while he regrets being unable to get President Donald Trump to exercise more, he did manage to slightly improve the president's diet. 

"The exercise stuff never took off as much as I wanted it to," retired Navy Rear Adm. Ronny Jackson told The New York Times

"But we were working on his diet. We were making the ice cream less accessible, we were putting cauliflower into the mashed potatoes."

Jackson did not say whether the president, now 73, was aware the vegetable had been added to his starchy side, the Times reported.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/02/26/ronny-jackson-efforts-improve-trump-diet/4878600002/

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Watching the press conference on the virus really highlights how competent everyone on the stage is except for the one at the top. He rambled his way through an opening, bragged about how US is number one rated in preparation before listing the ones ranked below us (because why?). 

It also might be my bias, but there seemed like too much fawning over the president’s leadership in this hard time until we get to the actual doctors and they were just down to business, as they should be.

Man, I just want a competent leader at this point. If it’s Bloomberg, then it’s Bloomberg, but it just can’t be Trump anymore, ok?

eta: god, his press conference is worse. It’s just ego on display, not that it’s a surprise. The really only useful thing he’s said is wash your hands.

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Just like his casinos, the man is going to bankrupt the U.S. and then disappear out of the public eye leaving us holding the debt. 

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2 hours ago, DMC said:

Yes this entire thing right now is all politics from each camp.  Bloomberg can either put up or shut up if (when) Sanders is the nominee, the money he's talking about was never going to go directly to the Sanders campaign or even his official PAC anyway.  Pretty strict limits on that.  It's all Super PAC money anyway, which is "indirect" supposedly. 

Bloomberg already promised he'd invest as much as $1 billion no matter which candidate is the nominee.  No point in getting into the weeds about it now, that's just for people on the internet.  Either he's a man of his word when Bernie is the nominee, or he's not.  Bernie can't stop him even if he wanted to.  So, this is basically Sanders calling Bloomberg's bluff.  And good for him.

We do see his bona fides; bloomb even admitted last night that he regards his 'donations' as buying the Congress for the Dems (plus we know he's bought a lot of the Dem mayors's election campaigns across the US, which is why so many support him -- and it seems quite likely he bought the $1500 + tix to the CBS debate last night, thus the cheers and the boos where one would not expect).  Buying the Oval Office is easy after that.

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In the meantime, if any Dem by any means, gets into the Oval Office s/he will preside over a nation of mud and ashes.  Dumpster is even using the covid-19 possible crisis as a means to plunder ever more of the national health safety nets under the rubric of 'keeping the nation safe.'  Where have we seen this before?

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