williamjm Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 It's definitely not a good look for the Government that while they're still debating whether cancelling major sporting events would be a good idea, most of those organising events in the next couple of weeks have cancelled them anyway (I'm not sure whether there's anything still on?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 25 minutes ago, williamjm said: (I'm not sure whether there's anything still on?). As of right now the UFC are still planning to go ahead with their London event next weekend but everything else is off. The cheeky bastards have actually not just opted to go ahead with an event in Brasil tomorrow but moved the start time forward two hours to bring it into a time more suited to all the Americans who would have been watching other sport but won't be. Absolutely shameless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lessthanluke Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 2 hours ago, williamjm said: It's definitely not a good look for the Government that while they're still debating whether cancelling major sporting events would be a good idea, most of those organising events in the next couple of weeks have cancelled them anyway (I'm not sure whether there's anything still on?). I'm competing in Wales Strongest Man in like 4 weeks (or supposed to be) and organiser is adamant he's not cancelling it. (Not a huge sporting event but like 2000 fans in a rugby stadium) Wondering whether I should still be preparing or not hah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Which Tyler Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/13/uk-to-ban-mass-gatherings-in-coronavirus-u-turn UK finally acts, after... the UK completely ignores Boris and does the right thing regardless. Now that's leadership! ETA: helped by an official bollocking from the director general of the WHO: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/13/who-urges-countries-to-track-and-trace-every-covid-19-case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamjm Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Which Tyler said: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/13/uk-to-ban-mass-gatherings-in-coronavirus-u-turn UK finally acts, after... the UK completely ignores Boris and does the right thing regardless. Now that's leadership! I wonder how the Tory backbenches feel about Boris' strategy and what concerns they're feeling from their constituents? Jeremy Hunt certainly seemed unimpressed and there's probably others who agree with him. The Tory majority is large enough Boris doesn't really have to worry too much about the opposition parties but he has to convince his own party that he knows what he's doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSumm Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 10 hours ago, Which Tyler said: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/13/uk-to-ban-mass-gatherings-in-coronavirus-u-turn UK finally acts, after... the UK completely ignores Boris and does the right thing regardless. Now that's leadership! ETA: helped by an official bollocking from the director general of the WHO: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/13/who-urges-countries-to-track-and-trace-every-covid-19-case I’m not sure if it’s fair to call this a U turn, they never ruled it out, and they specifically mentioned that freeing up emergency services was an attractive reason to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Watching that show on Channel 4 last night, one of the science guys there said more than likely more measures would be taken next week depending on how things are looking. The whole point of the government's position is to take the right measures at the right time, assumption being that doing too much too early will just see a big spike later on down the line. TBH its unsurprising that most sporting events would cancel on their own anyway, nobody wants to be seen to look irresponsible by holding these events and getting the blame later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaircat Meow Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 A very interesting thread here: Twitter - from prof Ian Donald "The govt strategy on #Coronavirus is more refined than those used in other countries and potentially very effective. But it is also riskier and based on a number of assumptions." Even if the government is wrong it makes a change when the experts don't automatically dismiss the big plan as stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Yeah saw that tweet this morning. Pretty interesting. I wonder what will actually happen in a months time, in say Italy. How long can they really keep up those measures and what happens when they loosen them. Will they see a big spike again and be back in the same position and then have to do it all again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamjm Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Chaircat Meow said: A very interesting thread here: Twitter - from prof Ian Donald "The govt strategy on #Coronavirus is more refined than those used in other countries and potentially very effective. But it is also riskier and based on a number of assumptions." Even if the government is wrong it makes a change when the experts don't automatically dismiss the big plan as stupid. It does feel like we're part of a giant experiment to find the least bad way of dealing with the crisis. In a few months we might know whether the UK was right or other countries were right, at the moment it's difficult not to be nervous about the UK taking a different approach. That said, I'd rather have a deliberate plan apparently lead by the experts than the lack of any apparent plan they have in the US. 1 hour ago, Heartofice said: I wonder what will actually happen in a months time, in say Italy. How long can they really keep up those measures and what happens when they loosen them. Will they see a big spike again and be back in the same position and then have to do it all again? China might be the first test of that since they're already down to a handful of new cases a day (most of which are now coming in from other countries). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Yeah China will be interesting, but we also have to be conscious that we aren’t China, and the measures taken there might work better because of the differences in Chinese reactions to authoritarian measures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Ice-Eyes Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Boris Johnson won’t close down the schools because if he does then he will have to address a lot of child poverty with all those kids hanging around the streets and no schools to look after them for the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, Brandon Ice-Eyes said: Boris Johnson won’t close down the schools because if he does then he will have to address a lot of child poverty with all those kids hanging around the streets and no schools to look after them for the day. Yeah, that's going to be a bastard to police with a reduced workforce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 12 minutes ago, Brandon Ice-Eyes said: Boris Johnson won’t close down the schools because if he does then he will have to address a lot of child poverty with all those kids hanging around the streets and no schools to look after them for the day. Yep that’ll be the reason. Very clever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-51892402 Scientists pointing out flaws in the government’s current covid policy, claiming it risks lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 https://www.itv.com/news/2020-03-14/elderly-to-be-quarantined-for-four-months-in-wartime-style-mobilisation-to-combat-coronavirus/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Derfel Cadarn said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-51892402 Scientists pointing out flaws in the government’s current covid policy, claiming it risks lives. Turns out none of them were virologists, most were actually just students and mathematicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Is Fred Olsen a big travel company in the UK? One of their cruise ships is quarantined in the Caribbean with 5 positive coronavirus cases on board. Is it a publicly traded company? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamjm Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Fragile Bird said: Is Fred Olsen a big travel company in the UK? One of their cruise ships is quarantined in the Caribbean with 5 positive coronavirus cases on board. Is it a publicly traded company? I don't know if they're that big but my Mum has been on a couple of their cruises in the past (I don't think she was very impressed with them). According to the Internet they're part of a Norwegian company: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred._Olsen_%26_Co. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51895873 “Mr Hancock warned: "Every single person in this country is going to be affected and they are going to have to do things."” That should stop the panic. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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