Rorshach Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Iskaral Pust said: Mbappe and Zidane? Heh. All the French I discarded 'cause they're French, and yet.. Lewandowski works, doesn't he? I'll switch him for Mbappé. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Norman Hunter dying of the virus just proves how nonsensical 'boris is a fighter, he will be fine' was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereward Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 I can’t remember who said it, but I remember a quote that went something like: “Vengeance is mine , sayeth the Lord. I don’t bloody think so, sayeth Norman Hunter.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 I think this just does it. Needed to be players I saw and remembered. A bit light here and there: Júlio César Lahm Terry Kompany Robertson Bergkamp Eriksen Zidane Giggs Franceso Totti Messi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacuna Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 57 minutes ago, ants said: I think this just does it. Needed to be players I saw and remembered. A bit light here and there: Júlio César Lahm Terry Kompany Robertson Bergkamp Eriksen Zidane Giggs Franceso Totti Messi Bergkamp and César both played for Inter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljkeane Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Bergkamp and Eriksen both played for Ajax too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 So, looking at various peoples suggestions I think that the best team defo has Maldini and Messi. Other than that, everyone else I can see either a reasonable argument that someone else is better, or they tie up too many other clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereward Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 I just don't see it with Messi. I get that his stats are amazing. But as a casual watcher these days, in the big games, he doesn't do much. Maradona dragged Argentina to success in a far poorer team than Messi plays in. And Cruyff invented the Barcelona way. I can't pick Maradona 'cause he's a cheating bastard, hence Kempes for Argentina, though I wish I'd picked Ardiles. And Cruyff for Barcelona every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iskaral Pust Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 On 4/15/2020 at 5:39 PM, Iskaral Pust said: Here’s my attempt to mix several eras: Jan Oblak John Terry Alan Hansen Wim Suurbier Paulo Maldini KDB Zico Messi George Best Gerd Muller Mbappe Edit: I just realized that Terry and KDB were both at Chelsea I can fix my errors with Oblak, Suurbier, Bobby Moore, Hansen, Maldini, Messi, KDB, Zico, Best, Lewandowski, Mbappe or Oblak, Suurbier, Moore, Hansen, Maldini, Messi, KDB, Zico, Giggs, Gerd Muller, Mbappe. It’s a fun challenge, and frustrating to have so many great individual players clashing at Barca, Ajax, Real Madrid and Juventus. Surprising that Brazil didn’t have many individuals that I really wanted — Cafu or the original Ronaldo would have been my next choice after Zico (or perhaps Socrates). But overall we’re spoiled for choice, and it’s possible to find room for players like VVD, Keane, Shearer, Bergkamp, Zidane, Platini, Matthaus, Beckenbauer, Weah, Ashley Cole, Totti, Del Piero, Makelele, John Giles, etc with acceptable tweaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iskaral Pust Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 35 minutes ago, Hereward said: I just don't see it with Messi. I get that his stats are amazing. But as a casual watcher these days, in the big games, he doesn't do much. Maradona dragged Argentina to success in a far poorer team than Messi plays in. And Cruyff invented the Barcelona way. I can't pick Maradona 'cause he's a cheating bastard, hence Kempes for Argentina, though I wish I'd picked Ardiles. And Cruyff for Barcelona every time. I think that’s recency bias as he has shifted to conserve energy and Barcelona have doubled down on just waiting for him to conjure something. Maradonna was an electric player, but Messi’s sustained ability to dictate play, elude/beat defenders, create chances and score goals is a definite step above. Cruyff is hugely influential to football but far less productive as an individual player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereward Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Best and Moore = Fulham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iskaral Pust Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, Hereward said: Best and Moore = Fulham. In that case replace Best with Barnes and swap out Hansen, which I think is better than replacing Moore with (say) Jack Charlton. I think it gets overlooked how incredible John Barnes was until that injury playing for England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereward Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Don’t you then have Moore and Barnes? PS Even considering swapping Moore for J. Charlton is like swapping Salma Hayek for Nora Batty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iskaral Pust Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 15 minutes ago, Hereward said: Don’t you then have Moore and Barnes? PS Even considering swapping Moore for J. Charlton is like swapping Salma Hayek for Nora Batty. Barnes complicates too much. My second team above, with Giggs instead of Best, holds up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soylent Brown Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 I can't believe you'd drop Hansen, Isk! Hansen is still my absolute favourite Liverpool player. VVD needs to keep his level up for a good deal longer before he can be viewed as equal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Paul Merson suggesting Newcastle will struggle to attract the best players no matter how much money we spend. If people will follow the money to moss side they will follow it to newcastle you drunken fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soylent Brown Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 They will, but I guess it still may be tricky to get things started. You'll probably do similar things to City and give wankers like Danny Mills obscene contracts along the way before you get your Dave Silvas and Vince Kompanys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philokles Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Oblak; Roberto Carlos, Maldini, VVD, Lahm; Aranguiz, Cazorla, De Bruyne; Messi, Mbappe, Kane I think that works. 57 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: Paul Merson suggesting Newcastle will struggle to attract the best players no matter how much money we spend. If people will follow the money to moss side they will follow it to newcastle you drunken fuck. Quite something from the guy who went from Arsenal to Boro for the money then commuted up from London every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iskaral Pust Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Soylent Brown said: I can't believe you'd drop Hansen, Isk! Hansen is still my absolute favourite Liverpool player. VVD needs to keep his level up for a good deal longer before he can be viewed as equal. Jockey was a great player, but so was Barnes, not to mention Dalglish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Is it possible to build a truly decent team around OG Ronaldo, a Brazilian who played for Barca, Madrid, and both Milans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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