Love in the Time of Coronavirus (#3)

[Mr. Chatywin et al.]

NHL and MLB following the NBA’s lead. Of course it’s the evil NCAA that’s the last to jump.

For the people outside of the U.S., the NCAA is the only sports entity that can rival FIFA when it comes to sheer evilness.

[HexMachina]

One of the local universities has now gone to online teaching effective from Monday. And the uni I went to for undergrad has announced that assessments for law students will be done by students in a limited time frame and handed back in. Need to read more because I don't fully know what happening there

[Filippa Eilhart]

20 minutes ago, Buckwheat said:

You can, they are funny. But I am not sure which ones are Polish and which ones are Czech/Slovak.

My apologies for the thread derail, everybody.

Bolek i Lolek is Polish. I didn’t realise Pat and Mat had names, they’re only known as Neighbours in Poland!

 

All schools closed in Luxembourg and all non-critical EU Commission staff is to telework starting Monday.

[Castellan]

first case in the next suburb along from mine, where I go shopping etc, although I have just switched to ordering online and picking up.

my husband got new glasses the other day. They told him they only had the frames on display, they cannot get any more and will close when they run out.

on tv right now they are debating whether to close various mass events.

[Mlle. Zabzie]

11 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

NHL and MLB following the NBA’s lead. Of course it’s the evil NCAA that’s the last to jump.

For the people outside of the U.S., the NCAA is the only sports entity that can rival FIFA when it comes to sheer evilness.

I was hoping that when Kansas joined Duke in pulling out, they would capitulate, but alas....

[The Anti-Targ]

35 minutes ago, Fez said:

I feel like that would honestly be really good if Ohio did have that many infections, since there aren't reports of mass deaths or overwhelmed ICUs there yet. So it would suggest that the virus is behaving rather mildly.

I don't know how to square that with what's going on in Italy or Iran though, which would suggest that there should be well over 1,000 Ohioans in critically ill condition with an infection rate that high.

Theoretically in a fairly healthy country with decent healthcare we should see South Korea-like fatality rates. So if Ohio is lucky enough to have those features a 120K infection rate should "only" see 840 deaths if they have South Korea case fatality rates. Currently, using official figures the US CFR is about 2.8%, but that will not be the true CFR since there will be massive under-reporting of the disease with how few diagnostic tests are being carried out. Though if Ohio is a microcosm of the USA as a whole, then 38 deaths nation wide is a stupidly low number, which probably means under-diagnoses, and hence under-reporting of deaths.

With co-morbidities, which is probably where most fatalities are coming from, and not just age, it's quite possible that people will die from co-morbidity complications than from the disease itself. So, if say an asthmatic dies from a massive asthma attack while being moderately sick from undiagnosed Covid-19, then there is a reasonable chance cause of death will be recorded as asthma attack and no testing for coronavirus will be carried out. Theoretically all CoDs that could be coronavirus related should be subject to a post mortem coronavirus test. But to put that in place the relevant regulations would have to be enacted to make it legally binding on medical practitioners, coroners etc.

[Impmk2]

5 hours ago, Fez said:

In a tiny bit of lighter news,

Also, good to see that he is apparently able to be up and about on his own.

Hilarious, but the betoota advocate is a satirical news site. Australia's equivalent of the Onion.

[Leofric]

1 hour ago, Buckwheat said:

 

I am partial to that "elbow nod" Pat and Mat tend to do (just the last part of the gif, I cannot find one where they don't shake hands first).

 

 

That reminds me of the growl and fist pump that Captain Shakespeare (Robert De Niro) and his crew use to salute each other in the movie Stardust.

[Fragile Bird]

16 minutes ago, Fez said:

Is it that long? I know the 2-week quarantine is to be safe because some people take that long. But I thought most people develop symptoms in 5-6 days, and it's not that long after that for the virus to get from the throat to the lungs; if it's going to get there.

Disney is closing it's park in California, I expect more to follow. Perhaps the Governor was asked by Disney to hold off while they made arrangements and sent emails?

[Tywin Manderly]

I'm in the Netherlands. The government has banned alll gatherings and events which are attended by more more than 100 individuals,, and ordered the closure of all museums and theatres. Universities and colleges are closing down too, but they must provide their classes online. The government also asked people to work at home, avoid large groups, and limit all travel to the absolute minimum. 

[The Anti-Targ]

2 minutes ago, Impmk2 said:

Hilarious, but the betoota advocate is a satirical news site. Australia's equivalent of the Onion.

Even though that is satirical fake news, the question is, why hasn't someone done this already for real?

[felice]

14 minutes ago, Fez said:

Is it that long? I know the 2-week quarantine is to be safe because some people take that long. But I thought most people develop symptoms in 5-6 days, and it's not that long after that for the virus to get from the throat to the lungs; if it's going to get there.

Apparently, the median time between first symptom and hospitalisation is 7 days. And that's on top of the incubation period before the first symptom. So presumably the symptoms get worse gradually.

[Mlle. Zabzie]

NCAA canceled.

The mother of one of my closest friends passed today.  I just found out.  It was not corona-related (she had a massive stroke some time ago, and had been in declining health.  However, she now has to think about funeral arrangements etc.  Westchester county.  Awful.

[Fez]

22 minutes ago, Impmk2 said:

Hilarious, but the betoota advocate is a satirical news site. Australia's equivalent of the Onion.

Ah. That's a shame. I think a lot of blue checkmark US journalists on Twitter were not aware.

[Toth]

Today I asked my principal whether we have a plan for homeschooling during a conference. She said we don't...

[RhaenysBee]

58 minutes ago, The Anti-Targ said:

Hmmm, distended belly is a symptom of hyperadrenocorticism (too much cortisol in your system), it's normally a kind of permanent state with that condition, but it could initially manifest as distension when there is increased abdominal pressure, such as due to having just eaten. Basically the high amount of cortisol over a long period of time causes weakening of the abdominal muscles. In an unmedicated animal that can have a few causes that you would not like. But in an animal that has had long term steroid use for other problems the steroid treatment can mimic the symptoms. I assume the steroid treatment is anti-imflammatory corticosteroid, and not an anabolic, it typically is for long term disc problems that aren't going to be surgically corrected. Of course I can't diagnose anything over the internet so you should see your vet. But if it is basically a medically induced hyperadrenocorticism, as I suspect it might be, there's not a lot that can be done, because long term steroid treatment is about the only non-surgical option for your dog's disc problems.

Oh, goodness, I would never have thought of that. Thank you so much for sharing your professional insight! I honestly have no idea what kind of steroid treatment it was, I trust the vet chose whichever is suitable to treat his disc problems. I will ask if this might be a side affect of his treatment. 

52 minutes ago, Buckwheat said:

You can, they are funny. But I am not sure which ones are Polish and which ones are Czech/Slovak.

My apologies for the thread derail, everybody.

Please don’t apologize, I think this thread really needs a bit of positive morale, and why shouldn’t that come in the shape of socialist cartoons? 
Little Mole, Cippolino, anybody?

38 minutes ago, Fez said:

Is it that long? I know the 2-week quarantine is to be safe because some people take that long. But I thought most people develop symptoms in 5-6 days, and it's not that long after that for the virus to get from the throat to the lungs; if it's going to get there.

This is what I keep hearing as well. 

[Darth Richard II]

7 hours ago, Mlle. Zabzie said:

• I was in NYC, downtown, on 9/11, and watched the towers fall.  The uncertainty here is similar-ish, but at least for me, that was far, far, far, worse.  I don’t do crowds well.  I can’t smell burning plastic Without mild panic.  The chaos and dislocation was way worse than this for me.  Here we know WHAT is going on.  We just don’t know how bad it is (no testing), and when it will end (don’t think it really will unless we get a vaccine).  But, we sort of know how stuff like this plays out.  This wave will be bad, then there will be a next wave probably in the fall, and then either there will be population immunity or there is a vaccine.  We can hope that this thing doesn’t mutate at the speed of the flu.  If it does then this will just be something we live with(our don’t).  
• The economy is effed.  Don’t know if it is effed 2008 style or otherwise, but buckle up.  

*platonic internet hug*

I can't even imagine.

[Kalbear]

All USA Gymnastics meets are cancelled. This is all the kids meets throughout the US, and just as they were going into the state championships. (It is absolutely the right thing to do, but my kids are a bit sad).

All schools in the main counties that are affected in Washington State are now closed until April 24th.

[The Anti-Targ]

3 minutes ago, RhaenysBee said:

Oh, goodness, I would never have thought of that. Thank you so much for sharing your professional insight! I honestly have no idea what kind of steroid treatment it was, I trust the vet chose whichever is suitable to treat his disc problems. I will ask if this might be a side affect of his treatment. 

It could be that the vet is willing to do a telephone consultation where you just describe the symptoms. But they might want to bring your dog in to maybe do some blood work anyway. I wouldn't "suggest" this diagnosis to the vet. Some vets don't like it when clients suggest diagnoses, even if it's come from some other vet on the internet.

[Fragile Bird]

Ontario schools are going into Spring break, and the government has announced all publicly financed schools will be closed for two additional weeks. I don’t know why they didn’t order all schools closed.