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Love in the Time of Coronavirus (#3)

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3 minutes ago, The Great Unwashed said:

It's now in Oklahoma City, and the Utah Jazz player who tested positive is the likely vector. 

Another member of the Utah Jazz visited an OKC area high school before the test was confirmed positive. The hotel where the Jazz team was staying has been closed.

And people are still not taking this thing seriously.

Gobert and the rest of his team practiced at a local college while in town for the Celtics game last week, so they're taking their own precautions.

Meanwhile my workplace has told us all to work from home for the next month. I expect we'll keep my son home from preschool as well, so my days are getting a lot more interesting. My wife, however, is a medical professional and will keep reporting to work. We're quarantining ourselves from visiting her parents, who live in a retirement community.

I wish we didn't have a gang of stupid, incompetent, lying grifters managing this thing.

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2 hours ago, Corvinus said:

If your vet appointment is this week, then yes. If it's sometime in the next 2 weeks, maybe decide closer to the date. And is this just a regular check for the dog, or does the dog require medical attention? If latter, I don't know about you, but I would risk way worse to see my dog treated. And follow up question, why so far to go to the vet? Are city vets that expensive?

We don’t have an appointment, the vet is open on weekdays from 5-8pm. The reason for the visit is that added to his existing health issues (dislocated discs in the lower spine area, allergy and related skin symptoms that renew periodically) I have noticed his lower abdomen is bulging and hangs lower than it should. It is quite visible after he feeds but barely noticeable when he walks or runs. No idea what it is but I’m concerned about it, and another steroid treatment for his spine is due every half year anyway.
As for the follow up question, not at all, it’s really not about money. I suppose I just didn’t describe the locations well enough, the vet is not far away, it’s 30 minutes from my home town where the dog is (he’s a family dog and lives at my mother’s house). It’s closer and easier to access than city vets, it would be a nightmare to get him to one of those. 

1 hour ago, Fez said:

I'd say it depends on what your dog needs. If my cat had an emergency, I'd absolutely take him to the vet; fuck the virus at that point. I honestly care more about his health than mine; and the odds of me infecting anyone else if I got sick are very low at this point. I'd just bring lots of hand sanitizer and gloves with me. If it was just a regular check-up, I'd probably reschedule.

As for where to shack up in a quarantine, there's a ton of variables there to consider. I might be safer going back to my hometown (although the logistics of getting there would be rough, especially with the cat), but the stress of living with my dad again would literally overwhelm me. Everyone has there own decisions to make about what's important to them.

I do have sanitizer with me at all times and I don’t think there’s more chance of contracting the virus on a train than on public transport. 

The question of quarantine is even more difficult. My sister doesn’t know what she wants to do either, if we both travel back to the country... well the combo of me, my mother and my sister can be a lot. Staying here together (just me and sister) is possibly even worse. She obviously won’t be left alone anywhere so the one remaining option is that she goes and I stay alone. That would be an adventure. I’m introverted enough to not mind being alone, but complete isolation and the drama and the stress... I don’t know. I also don’t know where the hell my father plans on staying but I hope he thought about it and I hope he won’t be alone, I really don’t want him to be alone. 

1 hour ago, Cas Stark said:

Can you rent a car?  That would keep you off of public transportation and isolated.  You could if you wanted spray down a rental car to help prevent any transmission.  

I will only tell you what I would do, which is go to the country, where you are more isolated and there is less population density so less chance of virus spread.  Cities can get crazy pretty quickly if things should go toward a worst case scenario.  So, unless you are part of one of the high risk groups, I would think that being separate is more beneficial than having close access to medical assistance that you probably would not need.

Ah no, I’m not a very good driver, I would sooner get car service, don’t think it’d be more expensive than renting. 

Yes, that makes sense, actually. 

1 hour ago, Fragile Bird said:

Dumb question here - should I be changing clothes after I've been out and washing what I wore?

I don’t think so, I doubt it can stay alive on your clothes long enough. But I have no idea what I’m talking about, I’m sure there are professional opinions on the matter out there. 

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There seem to be wildly inconsistent reports of how long the virus can last on surfaces, but most seem to agree that its at least a few hours for most surfaces. When I got home yesterday to be safe I did get changed and put those clothes in the laundry; and immediately washed my hands yet again. But I dunno if that actually helps at all.

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1 hour ago, Gaston de Foix said:

Can I recommend the Indian namaste? It is a form of greeting that requires no contact whatsoever and is generally recognizable and polite.  

 

51 minutes ago, JEORDHl said:

I've starting doing the head nod/acknowledging chin tilt more often.

I am partial to that "elbow nod" Pat and Mat tend to do (just the last part of the gif, I cannot find one where they don't shake hands first).

 

Jokes aside, here is a website that regularly posts statistics about the situation: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?fbclid=IwAR2WhtIvODVjwxZEszArsVM0ypi0ZJvQ3SVjdnjuyl9ViV2IZPnIdKS5rto

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7 minutes ago, Buckwheat said:

I am partial to that "elbow nod" Pat and Mat tend to do (just the last part of the gif, I cannot find one where they don't shake hands first).

Is Pat and Mat a widely known thing? I know them because I teach kids Czech (well, assist) and they watch it sometimes. Just surprised to see it referenced :)

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23 minutes ago, Gertrude said:

Is Pat and Mat a widely known thing? I know them because I teach kids Czech (well, assist) and they watch it sometimes. Just surprised to see it referenced :)

I am in an ex-socialist country, and they are widely known here, together with Bolek & Lolek and Jajo & Pajo and maybe some other old Czech-Slovak and Polish programmes (edit: Krtek/Small Mole!). I suppose it is similar in other countries near here, but I don't think they are widely known in the West. I knew somebody who had the Pat & Mat theme song as their ringtone. And I am childish enough that I still find them funny.

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25 minutes ago, Buckwheat said:

Jokes aside, here is a website that regularly posts statistics about the situation: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?fbclid=IwAR2WhtIvODVjwxZEszArsVM0ypi0ZJvQ3SVjdnjuyl9ViV2IZPnIdKS5rto

Well. That’s worse than what our government site quotes. Then again they update that about twice a day, so I suppose it makes sense. 

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Fucking hell...

Newsom is way worse at this than the other Governors taking major actions, and that includes Republicans like Mike DeWine in Ohio; who's been a pleasant surprise in how serious and proactive he's been.

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3 minutes ago, Fez said:

Fucking hell...

Newsom is way worse at this than the other Governors taking major actions, and that includes Republicans like Mike DeWine in Ohio; who's been a pleasant surprise in how serious and proactive he's been.

Mmn hmn. Especially considering this:

 

edit: considering the RO of coronavirus...

Edited by JEORDHl

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I'm in New York and the they capped public gatherings at 500 effective 5pm on Friday, except for Broadway theaters which is effective starting today.

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Well, fuck. France is officially closing all schools and universities effective next monday.

I mean, it's a good thing of course (it shows Macron can do some things right), but I'd planned all my tests for next week so now I have to figure out a way to test the students remotely.

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I feel like that would honestly be really good if Ohio did have that many infections, since there aren't reports of mass deaths or overwhelmed ICUs there yet. So it would suggest that the virus is behaving rather mildly.

I don't know how to square that with what's going on in Italy or Iran though, which would suggest that there should be well over 1,000 Ohioans in critically ill condition with an infection rate that high.

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8 minutes ago, Fez said:

Fucking hell...

Newsom is way worse at this than the other Governors taking major actions, and that includes Republicans like Mike DeWine in Ohio; who's been a pleasant surprise in how serious and proactive he's been.

Goodness.  I'm gonna remember this when he's running for President, not that my opinion counts for anything. 

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@Fez

 

Under representing, would be my go to guess. For most people the symptoms are mild. Add punitive cost and/or strictures on qualifying for testing, and the spread is out there. I hope nursing homes and assisted living facilities, et stuff like, are being super diligent. Because whew...

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20 minutes ago, Buckwheat said:

I am in an ex-socialist country, and they are widely known here, together with Bolek & Lolek and Jajo & Pajo and maybe some other old Czech-Slovak and Polish programmes (edit: Krtek/Small Mole!). I suppose it is similar in other countries near here, but I don't think they are widely known in the West. I knew somebody who had the Pat & Mat theme song as their ringtone. And I am childish enough that I still find them funny.

Ah, ok. The only other one I know is Krtek. Perhaps I should look some others up for class!

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47 minutes ago, RhaenysBee said:

We don’t have an appointment, the vet is open on weekdays from 5-8pm. The reason for the visit is that added to his existing health issues (dislocated discs in the lower spine area, allergy and related skin symptoms that renew periodically) I have noticed his lower abdomen is bulging and hangs lower than it should. It is quite visible after he feeds but barely noticeable when he walks or runs. No idea what it is but I’m concerned about it, and another steroid treatment for his spine is due every half year anyway.
As for the follow up question, not at all, it’s really not about money. I suppose I just didn’t describe the locations well enough, the vet is not far away, it’s 30 minutes from my home town where the dog is (he’s a family dog and lives at my mother’s house). It’s closer and easier to access than city vets, it would be a nightmare to get him to one of those. 

Hmmm, distended belly is a symptom of hyperadrenocorticism (too much cortisol in your system), it's normally a kind of permanent state with that condition, but it could initially manifest as distension when there is increased abdominal pressure, such as due to having just eaten. Basically the high amount of cortisol over a long period of time causes weakening of the abdominal muscles. In an unmedicated animal that can have a few causes that you would not like. But in an animal that has had long term steroid use for other problems the steroid treatment can mimic the symptoms. I assume the steroid treatment is anti-imflammatory corticosteroid, and not an anabolic, it typically is for long term disc problems that aren't going to be surgically corrected. Of course I can't diagnose anything over the internet so you should see your vet. But if it is basically a medically induced hyperadrenocorticism, as I suspect it might be, there's not a lot that can be done, because long term steroid treatment is about the only non-surgical option for your dog's disc problems.

Re the EU travel ban. Unless the UK has a ban on mainland EU travel, then I guess the main effect of the ban is to help the UK economy by having a bunch of EU travellers having to go to the UK as the leaving point for their flights to the USA. Or is the ban for anyone with a non-UK European passport?

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8 minutes ago, JEORDHl said:

@Fez

 

Under representing, would be my go to guess. For most people the symptoms are mild. Add punitive cost and/or strictures on qualifying for testing, and the spread is out there. I hope nursing homes and assisted living facilities, et stuff like, are being super diligent. Because whew...

True, but still. It seems like the bad numbers should be much higher at this point, too high to hide or call other things. Unless the virus is way weaker in most people than even the most optimistic projections (and that South Korean testing has missed a lot of weak cases); because "mild" means everything short of requiring supplemental oxygen. Or she's wrong in her assessment.

I hope she's right.

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13 minutes ago, Gertrude said:

Ah, ok. The only other one I know is Krtek. Perhaps I should look some others up for class!

You can, they are funny. But I am not sure which ones are Polish and which ones are Czech/Slovak.

My apologies for the thread derail, everybody.

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